Can any of the BO supporters of the Ruin Your Health Bill please explain what the Hell The Following Has To Do With Health Care Reform?
http://www.rules.house.gov/bills_details.aspx?NewsID=4606
H.R. 4872 – Reconciliation Act of 2010
Text of the Amendment in the Nature of a Substitute
Section-by-Section of the Amendment in the Nature of a Substitute
Text of the Senate Amendments to H.R. 3590 (Senate health bill)
Text of the bill as reported (reported by the Budget Committee)
H. Rept. 111-443: Budget Committee Report (Volume 1)
H. Rept. 111-443: Budget Committee Report (Volume 2)
STUDENT LOANS:
Subtitle F—Other Provisions
Sec. 1501. Community college and career training grant program.
TITLE II—EDUCATION AND HEALTH
Subtitle A—Education
Sec. 2001. Short title; references.
PART I—INVESTING IN STUDENTS AND FAMILIES
Sec. 2101. Federal Pell Grants.
Sec. 2102. Student financial assistance.
Sec. 2103. College access challenge grant program.
Sec. 2104. Investment in historically black colleges and universities and minority-
serving institutions.
PART II—STUDENT LOAN REFORM
Sec. 2201. Termination of Federal Family Education Loan appropriations.
Sec. 2202. Termination of Federal loan insurance program.
Sec. 2203. Termination of applicable interest rates.
Sec. 2204. Termination of Federal payments to reduce student interest costs.
Sec. 2205. Termination of FFEL PLUS Loans.
Sec. 2206. Federal Consolidation Loans.
Sec. 2207. Termination of Unsubsidized Stafford Loans for middle-income borrowers.
Sec. 2208. Termination of special allowances.
Sec. 2209. Origination of Direct Loans at institutions outside the United
States.
Sec. 2210. Conforming amendments.
Sec. 2211. Terms and conditions of loans.
Sec. 2212. Contracts; mandatory funds.
Sec. 2213. Agreements with State-owned banks.
Sec. 2214. Income-based repayment.
Subtitle B—Health
Sec. 2301. Insurance reforms.
Sec. 2302. Drugs purchased by covered entities.
Sec. 2303. Community health centers.
So I guess it is the Government decidiing who gets a student loan now.
Barack Obama is responsible for proposing amendments in House Acts these days?
Gosh, Yorkshire, what would we do without Constitutional scholars like yourself?
Well, Pho, it does speak to one rather interesting point: on the merits of health care reform alone, it seems that the bill cannot attract majority support in a Congress controlled by the Democratic Party. On the merits of health care reform alone; members of the Democratic majority have to be bought off with all sorts of non-germane things to try to, maybe, get 216 votes.
One the broad, generic, no real details question of health care reform, the majority of the American people would like to see something done; I, of course, would not be in that majority. But when it comes down to actually proposing something, it loses majority support, and it always has, because while people would like to see things made better, every proposed “solution” has always been worse.
More things to piss you off and make you angry about this Bill. BO wants absolute power over us:
http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/domestic-taxes/87697-republicans-assail-irs-provision-in-health-care-bill-
Republicans assail IRS provision in health care bill By Vicki Needham – 03/18/10 03:22 PM ET
House Ways and Means Republicans on Thursday assailed a provision in the proposed health care reform bill under consideration this week.
Subcommittee on Oversight ranking member Charles Boustany (R-La.) said the IRS provision in the bill “dangerously expands, in an ominous way the tentacles of the IRS and it’s reach into every American family,” he said today during a press conference.
“This is a vast expanse of power,” he said.
Boustany said the bill would allow the IRS to confiscate refunds if there are penalties for not buying health care.
Lawmakers have questioned whether the IRS can handle the increased workload to oversee, administer and collect penalties for people who don’t buy health insurance.
Well, Pho, it does speak to one rather interesting point: on the merits of health care reform alone, it seems that the bill cannot attract majority support in a Congress controlled by the Democratic Party.
How exactly are you defining “majority” there?
Right now, Phoe, the Democrats are struggling to come up with 216 votes in the House of Representatives, the minimum number required if all 433 current Representatives vote, to pass the bill. (There are two vacancies in the House at the moment.) If they can’t make 216 by Sunday’s vote, then they wouldn’t have majority support.
Even if they make 216, it will have been through back-room deals, and all sorts of pet programs added to this monstrosity to buy some last-line votes.
York – nothing in this bill, other than the title, has anything to do with health care. It is a power grab, pure and simple.
Jim:
York – nothing in this bill, other than the title, has anything to do with health care. It is a power grab, pure and simple.
Pardon my french, but as spoken on the street – NO SHIT!
This marks the last best chance of the government taking over near-complete control of post-secondary education along with the last best chance of the government taking over absolute complete control of health. If those two things happen, the US as a free country dies. That is how critical it is to kill both attacks on freedom. And I don’t want to depend on SCOTUS actually ruling based on COTUS, because there is a history of SCOTUS ignoring COTUS.
Absolutely, this is the most critical time in the 234-year history of the US. If this government take-over is successful, US collapses from within as did all previous major powers in the world. But this time, the major power championing freedom collapses.
John Hitchcock:
This marks the last best chance of the government taking over near-complete control of post-secondary education along with the last best chance of the government taking over absolute complete control of health. If those two things happen, the US as a free country dies. That is how critical it is to kill both attacks on freedom. And I don’t want to depend on SCOTUS actually ruling based on COTUS, because there is a history of SCOTUS ignoring COTUS.
Absolutely, this is the most critical time in the 234-year history of the US. If this government take-over is successful, US collapses from within as did all previous major powers in the world. But this time, the major power championing freedom collapses.
The progressives almost have in their grasp the collapsing from within of the USA. Remember, Progressives know more about what you should do that you do.
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