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President Obama, Afghanistan, and the missing half of the decision

Our good friend Donviti almost raised an important question, and then backed off of it. In quoting from Frank Rich’s article in yesterday’s New York Times, Messrs Rich and Viti both looked at the (supposed) inadequacy of the President’s plans in Afghanistan, mentioned Pakistan, but then ignored the logical consequences. Mr Rich wrote:

“Along its border,” of course, means across the border — a k a Pakistan. Obama never satisfactorily argued why more troops in Afghanistan, where his own administration puts the number of Qaeda operatives at roughly 100, will help vanquish the far more substantial terrorist strongholds in Pakistan. But even if he had made that case and made it strongly, a larger issue remains: If the enemy in Afghanistan, whether Taliban or Qaeda, poses the same existential threat to America today that it did on 9/11, why is the president settling for half-measures?

By “half-measures,” Mr Rich refers to the number of additional troops being put in Afghanistan.

It’s not just that Obama is fielding somewhat fewer troops than the maximum Gen. Stanley McChrystal requested. McChrystal himself didn’t ask for enough troops to fight a proper counterinsurgency in Afghanistan in the first place. Using the metrics outlined in the sacred text on the subject, Gen. David Petraeus’s field manual, we’d need a minimal force of 568,000 for Afghanistan’s population of 28.4 million. After the escalation, allied forces will reach barely a quarter of that number.

If the enemy in Afghanistan today threatens the American homeland as the Viet Cong never did, we should be all in, according to Obama’s logic. So why aren’t we?

The problem neglected by Messrs Rich and Viti is that the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan is wholly meaningless to al Qaeda and the Taliban. They move across it perfectly freely, perfectly naturally. They are not government troops, they neither represent nor respect any government, and will do whatever they believe to be in their best interests to win. If al Qaeda and the Taliban are in Pakistan as well as Afghanistan, as President Obama stated, our respect for the international border simply gives those organizations a safe haven. By “half-measures,” Mr Rich could have, and should have, meant not really dealing with the problem of al Qaeda and the Taliban across the Pakistani border.

Now, we have been willing to send unmanned drones over Pakistan, both for surveillance and bombing attacks, but the use of ground troops has been out of the question, though the possibility certainly exists that there have been covert missions which have crossed the border.

In some ways, the Predator drone work reminds me of the Operation Menu covert bombing campaign waged against North Vietnamese and Viet Cong positions in eastern Cambodia. Initial cross-border surveillance operations ordered by President Lyndon Johnson generated a lot of intelligence, but Cambodian ruler Prince Norodom Sihanouk would not budge from his “neutrality” between the warring sides in Vietnam. President Richard Nixon then ordered a covert bombing attack on suspected Communist positions, supply dumps and the Ho Chi Minh Trail in Cambodia. The bombing campaign was certainly a nuisance, but it did not seriously hamper Communist military activities. The Predators are, of course, much more precise than gravity bombs from a B-52.

President Nixon then asked for planning for an invasion of eastern Cambodia, to use troops on the ground to destroy the Communist bases and supply caches on the ground, something that bombing by B-52 Stratofortresses couldn’t do with precision. Strategically, it was the only decision which made sense: you can’t allow your enemy safe sanctuary. Operationally, it was not quite as successfully as the President had hoped.

The North Vietnamese response to the incursion was to avoid contact with allied forces and, if possible, to fall back westward and regroup. PAVN (People’s Army of Vietnam ) forces were well aware of the planned attack and many COSVN/B-3 Front (Central Office for South Vietnam) military units were already far to the north and west conducting operations against the Cambodians when the offensive began.

Politically, it was a disaster: the Cambodian incursion sparked anti-war protests much greater than we had seen before, including the famous Kent State shootings. I was in high school at the time, and remember the protests well, even though they never came to the small town in which I lived.

President Obama is in pretty much the same position as President Nixon found himself in 1969 and 1970. If he continues to fight in Afghanistan, he really can’t allow the enemy to have a safe haven in Pakistan. If concentrations of al Qaeda or Taliban can be located in Pakistan, the President has to be ready to authorize whatever force is necessary to take them out. But the US certainly has to be able to keep such plans a secret: when the Vietnamese Communists knew that US troops were coming to a particular area, they simply withdrew, knowing that the US troops would be out again soon enough.

President Obama knows about the enemy presence in Pakistan, and I’m certain that at least the option of using American troops to go after them has been presented to him; the Pentagon would have been derelict in not at least having the option ready for presentation. At some point, President Obama is going to have to take that option.

We lost in Vietnam, in part because we didn’t have the support of the public to win, but also because we unnecessarily restricted what we were doing against the enemy. But when we lost in Vietnam, it wasn’t really a threat to the United States; the Vietnamese Communists were mostly interested in ruling Vietnam. To lose against al Qaeda is different; the Islamists would happily strike the United States again, and if they can seize power in Pakistan, they seize possession of nuclear weapons as well. Our good friend Donviti hates that President Obama has taken the decision to stay in Afghanistan and fight the Islamists, but really, it was the only decision he could have taken. We can’t just fight this war; we have to win this war.

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  1. [...] Related thoughts. “President Obama is in pretty much the same position as President Nixon found himself in 1969 [...]

  2. donviti says:

    Any day I am bundled with Frank Rich is a humbling one.

  3. donviti says:

    We lost in Vietnam, in part because we didn’t have the support of the public to win, but also because we unnecessarily restricted what we were doing against the enemy. But when we lost in Vietnam, it wasn’t really a threat to the United States; the Vietnamese Communists were mostly interested in ruling Vietnam. To lose against al Qaeda is different; the Islamists would happily strike the United States again, and if they can seize power in Pakistan, they seize possession of nuclear weapons as well. Our good friend Donviti hates that President Obama has taken the decision to stay in Afghanistan and fight the Islamists, but really, it was the only decision he could have taken. We can’t just fight this war; we have to win this war.

    Such a brainless paragraph from open to close. Your opinions are far from facts. It’s like you walk outside at night and claim it to be daytime, then go to bed satisfied about your profound proclamation.

    We have to win what war? Please, proclaim a little further and tell us how we are supposed to win? Tell us what happens when we win “this” war? What is a win?

    I say we wage the war on air instead, it’s more winnable. We “have” to win it! we “must” win it! Air must be defeated! It is everywhere.

  4. Dana Pico says:

    Well, Mr Viti, what would you do? Whether you like the situation or not, the Islamists hate us, enjoyed striking at us, and if we just withdraw they’ll eventually gain control of Pakistan and its nuclear weapons. Do you have any idea how many container ships come into the Port of New York every day? One crude atomic bomb, in a container ship, sailing into New York; the Islamists don’t even have to get it through Customs, once it’s in the port.

  5. donviti says:

    I asked you Dana. You said must…you seem to have the answers and say we need to win. Well, what is winning? please enlighten me. we must win, so you say. Please do tell, dooooo Tell

    Do you have any idea how many container ships come into the Port of New York every day? Yes, the same amount since 9/11 and yet….here we are alive and well.

  6. donviti says:

    Islamists!

    BOO!

  7. coggie says:

    Strange symmetry here – Nixon inherited the Kennedy/Johnson war and got the US out in 4 years (69-73). Obama is inheriting the Bush war – how long till we are out of Afghanistan? I would say he needs to take his tiem as the differential threats do merit a difference. N Vietnam just wanted to unify their country, jihadis want to establish sharia everywhere. Man – everyone wants to rule the world.

  8. Dana Pico says:

    Winning a war is when you destroy your enemy’s ability and will to continue to fight against you. This is normally accomplished by killing a significant part of his fighting aged men, to the point that those remaining alive are so cowed that they are unwilling to continue to fight, knowing that only death awaits them, without any chance of achieving victory.

  9. donviti says:

    lol.
    This is normally accomplished by killing a significant part of his fighting aged men, to the point that those remaining alive are so cowed that they are unwilling to continue to fight, knowing that only death awaits them, without any chance of achieving victory.

    At times your brilliance is beyond me even making sarcastic smart ass references. But that last assesment (yes, ass-esment) is stunning. I don’t think you have read one book or bothered to understand anything about the middle east, or actually even understand anything about a nation citizens that want to rid their country of an enemy and the lengths humans go to defend something.

    Kill em all is not feasible Dana, no matter how hard Hitler tried those pesky Jews didn’t know when to just lay down and quit. Stop watching cowboy movies and grow up.

  10. Yorkshire says:

    After reading BO’s speech from Tuesday I must wonder if he understands Al-Q, understands what the Pak nukes mean to Al-Q and the Taliban, understands the eighth century thinking of some of these groups, and he has to decide which side of Al-Q Pakistan is on. Then there is India with its Nukes.

  11. Becky says:

    In order to win this war, it is going to take careful planning by our military officials. I just finished reading a great book on military leadership titled, “Words for Warriors” by Ralph Puckett. Ralph writes about his and others experiences in both the Vietnam and Korean wars, to provide a broad discussion of practical courses of action for the many challenges that confront leaders. Words for Warriors helps fill the gap between what is taught in our service schools and lessons learned through experience. I now understand some of what our military leaders go through to plan their tactics, and have faith that if they plan carefully we could win this war.

  12. donviti says:

    good point Becky, we should just allow the Military to run the country too. I can’t think of a better plan than allowing the military to do things there way. Hell, let’s have a coup and McChrystal can be our next president.

    At least you are reading, that’s more than most people can say around here.