Honduras votes today

Today is the day that Hugo Chavez and some of the other left-wing leaders in Latin America didn’t want to see: Honduras going through with the regularly scheduled elections after having deposed President manuel Zelaya last summer. The symbol of today’s elections in Honduras borrowed from La Gringa!

La Gringa reported on Friday:

On his knees and other candidate news

Adán Fúnez, Mayor of Tocoa, Colon

On his knees (literally!), the mayor of Tocoa and candidate for reelection, Adán Fúnez, renounced the resistance and asked forgiveness of the Liberals who he offended. He pledged his support of Liberal party candidate Elvin Santos and urged everyone to vote on Sunday.

UD and zelayista presidential candidate César Ham decided not to withdraw from the elections last week and is no longer promoting boycott of the elections. His platform includes a constitutional assembly. This was a serious blow to Zelaya who hoped to be able to point to the withdrawal of both opposition candidates as “proof” that the elections were not fair. Ham’s action may be the most patriotic of all of the candidates as it will show that the opposition/resistance/zelayistas do have a choice in the elections and will prove once and for all whether or not they represent a majority of the population.

Approximately 40 Zelaya-supporting candidates officially withdrew from the elections, representing around 1% of the total candidates. Most were immediately replaced with other candidates by their political parties, as is allowed under Honduran election law.

According to La Gringa, Canada, Panama, Peru, Costa Rica and, most importantly, the United States will recognize the elections, while Columbia may do so as well. Mr Zelaya reportedly responded to a supporter trying to boost his flagging spirits that more countries than not would decline to recognmize the election, “Yeah, but the US is worth more than all those pendejos put together.”

The good news is that, after initially giving in to his leftist impulses, President Obama has realized that the free elections, proceeding as scheduled, are the best solution to the problems of Honduras, and we’ll see a return to normalcy soon enough.

13 Comments

  1. President Obama has not changed his position, which was to support a duly elected President, Zelaya, thus opposing the coup that occurred, and now continuing to support a duly elected President, whomever the Hondurans choose.

    It is you from the Right who had supported the coup, for ideological reasons, to depose a ‘leftist’, but now support the election. Thus, now you are wisely changing your position, not Obama! Let’s keep the facts straight here.

  2. Perry – “…thus opposing the coup that occurred…”

    What coup? Because the Obama administration wanted to classify it as a coup, then it’s automatically a coup? You have a president who basically says to his people and government, ‘To Hell with the Constitution. There’ll be no elections. I’m not leaving. I’m going to remain in office.’

    It’s Zelaya himself who left the Honduran Supreme Court and government little choice. One could only hope we’d get the same result from our own Supreme Court if a U.S. President every tried what Zelaya tried.

    See for yourself –

    Perry – It is you from the Right who had supported the coup, for ideological reasons, to depose a ‘leftist’, but now support the election.

    Wrong again! It is those of us on The Right who recognized the incident as not being a coup, but a clear violation of a Democratic country’s own Constitution, who support the rightful elections.

    Perry – Thus, now you are wisely changing your position, not Obama! Let’s keep the facts straight here.

    Three strikes, your out! If anyone has changed their position, it’s been the Obama administration itself. They clearly overshot and as a result wound up suffering from their own self-induced Hoof-in-Mouth infection. Have you noticed lately the crickets chirping in eerie silence when ‘Honduras’ is spoken in the presence of the administration?

    I’m more interested in trying to understand why the current administration seems to go out of it’s way to court every Thug of a Thugocratic government found on the planet’s surface, while simultaneously drubbing it’s allies’ faces in the mud at every turn.

    Let’s keep the facts straight here Perry!

  3. Perry wrote:

    It is you from the Right who had supported the coup, for ideological reasons, to depose a ‘leftist’, but now support the election. Thus, now you are wisely changing your position, not Obama! Let’s keep the facts straight here.

    Using a site search for Honduras, this is the first article in which the word “Honduras” appears which was posted after the removal of former President Zelaya. In it, I wrote:

    If the Honduran elections proceed as scheduled this coming November, the problems caused by the irregular ouster of an unstable president will be washed away, and it will be business as usual.

    Now, how has my position changed again?

  4. Yes you have changed your mind, Dana, because you supported the coup. We debated it at the time. True, elections are occurring, a good thing, promoted by the position taken by the Obama administration. I note that Obama has stated that the US will recognize whatever government emerges.

    Here are the facts from a reputable source: “Americans, relying on media reports, are likely to believe that Zelaya was ousted because he tried to use a referendum to extend his term of office. This is false.

    Zelaya’s referendum, planned for the day the coup took place, was a nonbinding poll. It only asked voters if they wanted to have an actual referendum on reforming the country’s Constitution on the November ballot. Even if Zelaya had gotten everything he was looking for, a new president would have been elected on the same November ballot. So Zelaya would be out of office in January, no matter what steps were taken toward constitutional reform. Further, Zelaya has repeatedly said that if the Constitution were changed, he would not seek another term.”

    So yes, Joe, let us refocus on the facts, rather on the ideological prevarications of the right wing which you represent here.

  5. Perry, if you want to focus on facts, focus on this fact. Zelaya violated his nation’s Constitution. The legislature and the Supreme Court agreed on that. The military was called in to enforce the Constitution. There was no coup but rather an enforcement of the Constitution as it was written.

    That’s the fact you adamantly refuse to admit.

  6. Perry wrote:

    Yes you have changed your mind, Dana, because you supported the coup. We debated it at the time.

    Perry, I already gave you the link to the first article, one which I wrote, on this site concerning the coup in Honduras. Yes, I supported the coup, in that was the only way to remove a rogue president, one who had violated the constitution, but note what I actually wrote:

    Could Honduras have solved this problem without the ouster of President Zelaya? Yeah, probably, especially given the fact that his term was going to expire soon. But that doesn’t mean that, once done, his ouster isn’t a good thing. President Obama should drop any US insistence on the return of President Zelaya, and just let this one go. If the Honduran elections proceed as scheduled this coming November, the problems caused by the irregular ouster of an unstable president will be washed away, and it will be business as usual. We can certainly wait that long without trying to return a leftist enemy of the United States to power in Honduras.

    Where, in that, can you find anything to support your statement, “now you are wisely changing your position?” Where have I changed my position?

  7. La Gringa has several new articles up, giving coverage of today’s election. One of my favorites is this one, concerning voter non-participation. From his hidey-hole in the Brazillian embassy, former President Zelaya predicted that there would be less than 50% turnout, and said:

    This will disqualify the elections, make them fraudulent and will cause the US to rectify their position.

    La Gringa looked up the numbers, and noted that the highest non-participation rate listed was 44.62%, in the 2005 election won by Manuel Zelaya Rosales! :)

  8. Illegitimate governments cannot hold legitimate elections !
    No matter what you said or what you do, it was a coup why dont you do that in here and see what will happend to you.It is an insult to democracy.What about if you mention those who had been killed ,tortured,oppress,etc. since then .I guees how you will describe it.

    The people of Honduras are the ones who should choose what is best for them not the ones who does by force and intimidation.

  9. Hondurans will choose what’s best for them as long as International ACORN isn’t lurking around signing up voters from beyond the grave, and stuffing ballot boxes to put Obama’s pet communist tyrant Zelaya back in office.

    Time will tell if Honduras can overcome the toxic influence of the evil dictator Hugo Chavez, resist the communist takeover, and emerge free to live their lives according to their Constitution.

  10. The polls have been closed for a while now, and accoding to La Tribuna, Pepe Lobo is in the lead with 5509%, while Elvin Santos is second with 38.2%. The Zelayista candidate, César Ham, is in fifth place with 1.7%. I’m not sure how much of the vote has been counted yet, but it represents about 700,000 total votes so far.

    Mr Lobo is the candidate of the National Party (Partido Nacional de Honduras), a center-right party in Honduran politics. Mr Santos is the candidate of the Liberal Party (Partido Liberal de Honduras), a center-left party. Manuel Zelaya won in 2005 as the Liberal Party candidate, but moved much further to the left after he was in office, and alienated many of his PLH supporters.

  11. Looks like everybody wants to know what’s going on. La Tribuna’s website is too busy to get an answer. For those of you who can make your way through Spanish — I can, sort of –:


    “Pepe” Lobo gana las elecciones de Honduras


    La emisora HRN divulgó a las 7:03 de la noche los resultados de una encuesta a boca de urna.
    29.11.09 – Actualizado: 29.11.09 07:46pm – Redacción: redaccion@elheraldo.hn

    Tegucigalpa, Honduras

    El candidato del opositor Partido Nacional, Porfirio Lobo Sosa, se perfilaba la noche del domingo como el virtual presidente de Honduras, de acuerdo a los primeros datos anunciados por el Tribunal Supremo Electoral (TSE).

    Las primeras 4,159 urnas escrutadas y registradas por el centro de datos del TSE dan como resultado 318,960 votos a favor del candidato del Lobo Sosa y 218, 358 votos al candidato del Partido Liberal Elvin Ernesto Santos.

    Asimismo el Partido Innovación y Unidad (Pinu) registró 12,739 votos, el Partido de la Democracia Cristiana 11,150 votos y el Partido Unificación Democrática 9,747 votos. Según los porcentajes los nacionalistas tiene 55.86 por ciento y los liberales 38.24 por ciento

    El Pinu tiene un porcentaje de 2.23 por ciento de los votos, 1.95 por ciento para la Democracia Cristiana y 1.71 para Unificación Democrática. Los resultados del TSE muestran una diferencia de 17.2 por ciento de los votos en favor del candidato nacionalista sobre su más cercano opositor.

    La sumatoria de votos, en las 4,159 urnas es de 570,954 votos. Si la tendencia persiste, las autoridades electorales proyectan que a las urnas asistieron más de dos millones de votantes, una cifra que superaría las elecciones anteriores.

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