Once again, the neoconservatives are right

The Democrats in the Senate were just appalled when President Bush appointed John Bolton to be our Ambassador to the United Nations.  Mr Bolton was rude, Mr Bolton was undiplomatic, Mr Bolton was a hard-liner, they complained.  One thing the Democrats didn’t complain about, one thing they never mentioned, was that Mr Bolton was most often right! Sharon had this story:

John Bolton Was Right

I really hate when conservatives are right about these things, since it just means we’re in that much greater danger of dangerous stuff…like a nuclear armed Iran.

When the Obama Administration proclaimed victory on October 1st by announcing that a break-through had been reached in Geneva and that Iran had committed to shipping 2,600 pounds of fuel to Russia, expert Iran watchers were appropriately cynical. Bolton cautioned, yet again, that the Iranians had used some of the same diplomatic nuances they had been using for years to successfully buy more time to continue enriching uranium and fake cooperation with the international community.

Usually, the Europeans were the first to take the bait but this time the Obama Administration got hooked first. Bolton, however, was the first to stand up and call the Iranian pronouncement a sham – and he did it within hours of the announcement.

But as Obama officials were rushing to pat themselves on the back and the New York Times was proclaiming atop the paper “Iran Agrees to Send Enriched Uranium to Russia,” Iranian officials were telling reporters that they had not committed to anything. The Iranians called it “an agreement in principle” – code words for “we’d like to but…”

The Times’ reporter in Geneva, however, was taking what the Obama officials were saying and running wildly with the incredible news. Surprisingly, or maybe not, the Times had either not checked with Iranian officials or ignored their warnings in favor of the Obama Administration’s good news. Roughly a month later, the Iranian official statements confirmed the fact that the Obama Administration had been duped. The Times subsequently inched its way back to reality through multiple follow-up stories that increasingly showed skepticism in the Victory claims culminating with October 30th’s headline “Tehran Rejects Nuclear Accord.”

Today, while the Iranians reprocess more fuel, the Obama team continues to compromise and offer even more incentives to them. No wonder Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is waiting – the deal keeps getting sweeter. President Obama has offered the Iranians more time, more sites to place their illegal fuel, more personal correspondence with the Ayatollah, more excuses as to what happened to the original deal they announced and no Chinese and Russian arm-twisting. The Obama team also keeps claiming that if Iran ships 2600 pounds of fuel out to Russia for re-processing then Iran will be unable to pose a nuclear threat for at least a year.

It’s tough to keep giving Democrats the benefit of the doubt on these issues. The evidence keeps mounting that they either (a) don’t mind Iranian mullahs having nuclear weapons cuz, geez, America is the only country to ever use nukes, or (b) they are so stupid that they actually think the Iranian government won’t lie about their nuclear ambitions. Either way, the threat is great.

Well, I’d point out here that I was right as well, when I noted that:

Well, we’ll see. I admit that I don’t trust the Iranian government at all, but if the agreement is finalized, and it is verifiable, it will be a positive step.

At any rate, it didn’t take long before the supposed deal began to unravel. I was willing to give some credit to the Obama Administration, if the agreement actually panned out, while John Bolton just went straight negative. Thing is, while I put caveats on my giving credit to the Obama Administration, Mr Bolton was solidly, completely, 100% right. He gave no praise to the President for an agreement he was sure would never be finalized or honored, and he was dead on target.

Our own Americaneocon didn’t really write much on the subject himself, but he did post this cartoon by Theo Spark, which kind of explains it all:

The label “neoconservative” has ben bandied about with such looseness that a lot of people don’t really know what they are saying when they use the word. Without trying to get into definitions of the word, I’d like to posit three underlying principles of neoconservatism in foreign policy:

  1. Democracy and Western civilization are inherently superior, morally, ethically and economically, to any other cultures known to man, and ought to be held as superior publicly and in our dealings with other nations;
  2. Countries ruled by despots and dictators are inherently both capricious and untrustworthy, and agreements or alliances made with them must be constantly monitored for compliance; and
  3. Unwarranted expressions of good faith and hope shown to dictators and despots will not be returned with good faith, but with the assumption that such are signs of weakness and will be exploited wherever possible.

In his campaign, Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) made some promises concerning how he would conduct American foreign policy:

  • Secure loose nuclear materials from terrorists:

    Obama and Biden will secure all loose nuclear materials in the world within four years, and will negotiate a verifiable global ban on the production of new nuclear weapons material to curb the spread of nuclear weapons.

  • Barack Obama will pursue tough, direct diplomacy without preconditions to end the threat from Iran:

    Obama and Biden will present the Iranian regime with a clear choice. If Iran abandons its nuclear program and support for terrorism, they would offer incentives like membership in the World Trade Organization. If Iran continues its troubling behavior, Obama and Biden will step up our economic pressure and political isolation.

  • Renew American diplomacy:

    Obama and Biden will renew American diplomacy to meet the challenges of the 21st century. They will rebuild our alliances. And they would be willing to meet with all nations, friend and foe, to advance American interests.

  • In his campaign, Mr Obama was promising a foreign policy which was supposedly firm, but which wouldn’t upset other people, would treat them with respect. President Bush’s statement about the “Axis of Evil,” and President Reagan’s long-ago description of the Soviet Union as an “Evil Empire” would be things that would have to go under the Obama Administration.

    But, one thing about the neoconservatives: they were blunt, and they were forthright, and they often made few friends, but they were absotively, posilutely right in how they viewed the world. When President Reagan described the Soviet Union as an Evil Empire, he was telling the unvarnished truth, and if the Soviets — and some of our own liberals — reacted with a bellow of indignation, it was because they recognized it as true, but didn’t want the truth spoken. When the younger President Bush labeled Iraq, Iran and North Korea as an Axis of Evil, our friends on the left tried to pick that apart, trying to make points on a lack of cooperation between them meaning that the three nations weren’t a real “axis,” but the fact remained that all three were governed by thoroughly evil regimes.

    Of course, to call a foreign regime evil requires acceptance of the neoconservative principles I mentioned: “Democracy and Western civilization are inherently superior, morally, ethically and economically, to any other cultures known to man, and ought to be held as superior publicly and in our dealings with other nations.” The so-called multiculturalist approach, which holds that no particular culture is inherently superior, that all are equally “valid,” doesn’t have room for declaring other countries to be evil, and, despite the fact that our friends on the left certainly decry many of the parts of some foreign cultures and nations they find abhorrent — female circumcision, oppression of the individual, lack of real human rights — they can’t bring themselves to put these things together and call them what they are: evil. Instead, we find some of our own Western liberals making excuses for these oppressive regimes, making excuses for North Korea building atomic weapons, because the United States has them, even though, despite an open, shooting war with North Korea, we never used them against the Communists, and ignoring the fact that the oppressive communist Korean regime is starving its own people by its policies. We have seen excuses for Iran seeking to build nuclear weapons, despite the fact that no one has threatened them, despite the fact that Iran’s supposed greatest enemy, Israel, is believed to have had nuclear weapons for over thirty years and never used them, and despite the fact that the United States deposed the dictator who ordered the last invasion of Iran.

    Our friends on the left have been too consumed with the notion of equality, to the extent that they seem to hold that every nation is and ought to be equally sovereign with every other nation, that Myanmar ought somehow to be considered as equal to France, that Pakistan ought to be just as honored and respected as Germany, that Iran should be thought of and treated the same as the United States. The neoconservatives recognize reality, that just because those nations have certain, equal legal rights does not mean that they are truly equal, that just because they are sovereign does not mean they deserve respect.

    President Obama is in the process of getting a hard lesson in life from the Islamic Republic of Iran. Like President Carter before him, the Iranians are teaching him that their government cannot be trusted. Mr Carter learned that lesson too late, to the humiliation of the United States and the American people decided to allow our 39th President to take early retirement. Whether Mr Obama learns the lessons that President Ahmadinejad is trying to teach him, well, that’s anybody’s guess, but those lessons seem to go completely against our 44th President’s grain.

    But it’s really simple: if he’d simply listen to the neoconservatives, those brisk, rude people who might not be well liked but who have an unerring capacity to see the actual truth, he’d start to get it right.


    1. This recent report from the International Atomic Energy Association might be of interest.


      Journalist-NINA BURLEIGH: “The rest of the world know far more about ourselves, let alone what we know about them. And this triumph of ignorance means that Americans can’t even comprehend what motivates those who hate us.”

      JOHN STOCKWELL former CIA official and author: “It is the function of the CIA to keep the world unstable, and to propagandize and teach the American people to hate, so we will let the Establishment spend any amount of money on arms.”

      WILLIAM COLBY, former CIA Director: “The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the mainstream media.”

    2. And Abbberdabbberdo announced today he is starting 10 more sites to process uranium. That sure sounds like the agreement he made to ship it outside the country for processing.

    3. Did you know that the United States is considered the biggest threat to World stability? International polls have concluded that. Darn, I’ll probably have to bring you the studies, because you won’t believe me.

    4. GENERAL DOUGLAS MC ARTHUR: “Our government keeps us in a perpetual state of fear, kept us in a continuous stmpede of patriotic fervor with the cry ‘grave national emergency.’ Always, there has been some terrible evil..to gobble us up if we did not blindly rally behind it by furnishing the exorbitant funds demanded. Yet in retrospect, these disasters seem never to have happened, seem never to have been quite real.”

      JOHN STOCKWELL, former CIA official: “The major function of secrecy in Washington, is to keep the US people from knowing what the nation’s leaders are doing.”

    5. blubonnet:
      Did you know that the United States is considered the biggest threat to World stability? International polls have concluded that. Darn, I’ll probably have to bring you the studies, because you won’t believe me.

      I guess that explains the mass exodus of Americans to Cuba, Venezuala, and Iran.

    6. Well, York you are dismissing the opinion of EUROPE, and GENERAL MACARTHUR, and many others. You’ve been played by the US MSM, like a set of cheap bongo drums.

    7. consider how the Neo-cons have been “honest” (cough) with us before…WMDs, etc. When the facts are, the plans to go into Iraq and Afghanistan were long prior on the agenda, with plans set with Cheney, oil companies. They told us no torture was going on too, until SOME in the MSM exposed the truth. Ya think that sort of thing helps to end the wars, where we “win” ? No, it continues the war, which come to find out is a very good thing for defense industry people like the Bush family, and Cheney and friends, if you know about their own particular stock holdings.

    8. ADOLF HITLER: “There is alwasy a source of credibility in the big lie, because the average people of a nation are always more easily manipulated in their emotional nature, than consciously our voluntarily; thus more readily fall victim to the big lie, since they themselves often tell small lies…It would never come into average peoples heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort truth so infamously”

      HERMAN GOERING: “Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for ‘lack of patriotism’, and ‘exposing the country to danger’”.

      ABRAHAM LINCOLN, in a letter to a friend: “I see in the near future a crisis approaching. It unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. The money power preys upon the nation in times of peace, and conspires against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than a monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than buracracy. It denounces as public enemies, all who questio its methods, or throw light upon its crimes. I have two great enemies, the Southern Army, in front of me, and the financial institution at the rear, the latter is my greatest foe. Corporation have been enthroned, and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people, until the wealth is aggregated in the hands of the few, and the Reublic is destroyed. I feel at this moment, more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war. G9od grant that my suspicions may prove groundless.”

      JAMES MADISON: “If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.”

      DAVID WESSEL a G.W.BUSH Whitehouse Aide (Wall Street Journal): “Why would I lie? Because that’s what I’m supposed to do, lying to the press doesn’t prick anyone’s conscience.”

      THOMAS JEFFERSON: “A democracy cannot be both ignorant and free.”

      BBC WORLD NEW COMMENTATOR: “One of the Iraq war’s major casualties, is the credibility of the American media. Nobody takes it seriously.”

    9. blubonnet:
      Well, York you are dismissing the opinion of EUROPE, and GENERAL MACARTHUR, and many others. You’ve been played by the US MSM, like a set of cheap bongo drums.

      Then why are people still trying to get here. Occasionally a few leave, but more come than go. I’ve been to Europe several times, the Muddled East once and East Asia twice and at no time did I see a no welcome Gringo sign. And they were very happy to take my money. So, if they hated us so much, I would see Norte Americano Go Home.

    10. I’m surprised you haven’t heard of the many circumstances of people travelling over seas in recent years, and the disgust others have for Americans and their policies of empire. Of course the US is still one of the richest countries in the world.

    11. blubonnet:
      I’m surprised you haven’t heard of the many circumstances of people travelling over seas in recent years, and the disgust others have for Americans and their policies of empire. Of course the US is still one of the richest countries in the world.

      So far all my contacts in Europe have not said we hate you and we don’t ever want to talk to since you are from the USA.

    12. I’m glad, York. Others however have had such experiences. Maybe not directly outspoken, but, conveyed, (and outspoken many have reported also) in whatever form. I’ve had friends tell me that. A good friends/couple I have, she, whom I’m closer to as friends, also a Leftie, so more so than R anyway. He and I, though would occasionally, discuss politics, and as friends, agree not to do that ever again to stay friends. They travel internationally alot. He in all his Conservatism, sadly had to concede, that we, as a nation are now considered imperialistic, and dangerously aggressive. YES, sorry, but others in other nations have stated it. He actually privately told her we are now considered a repulsive predatory country. Big surprise. Bombing innocent people.

      Lies by politicans are genocidal. Why even risk participating in it? Why not search, and mostly use your own deep internal intuitive processes and conscience. You wouldn’t do it as a person. Why would you oblige, as a citizen of the world? Bombing innocent people? 90% of deaths in modern war are civilian.

      Again, research these things for yourself.

      There are lots of stories I’ve read of such experiences. Where? I’d dig, and find it. You can do that too. You wouldn’t. It might make you think into twitching discomfort.

      Don’t make me go look it up. YOU can do that. Prove me wrong. Dig. Easy. The easy.net. I look for a multitude of sources that say what I believe to be true. Then scrutinize what their (media source) record is for being correct, in retrospect, having made statements, and they turned out right-on or wrong.

      The neo-cons’Bolton being one, statements along with their many personal legal indictments you’ll see their track record sucks. Start lookin. Where the origins of present world policy of the most recent, of the US of A, wars, middle-east strategy for dominance of resources, just start googling PNAC, or Project for the New American Century, the think tank that made it all take place. I would trust you would have the tenacity to consider numerous perspectives….? So, check track records of your sources. Then decide which is most credible.

      Incidentally, Murdoch owned, editor being William Krystal, both being PNACers, are Weekly Standard, you know. Look at all their foibles in words, untruths in the end. Probably intentional lies.

      You might not find much on the Conservative side of the discussion, on things I challenge you on. Because, most of the time, the Conservative media, just omits telling “bad” things, you know the kind of things, I do. Only happy wars, like the beautiful tears the lost soldiers’ parents shed. For the country, of course. I bet those parents aren’t crying because they are so proud their beautiful daughter that died. The cry because they loved her, and she died. The media will glorify it. It aint pretty. It’s tragic. And it is all for lies and profit. I dare you to research it for yourself. Scrutinize for yourself. But, for God’s sake, be honest with yourselves.

      The biggest mafia on the planet is the corporate/government/defense industry fusions. I think it’s transcending of political party. I really have to ask myself, and you should too, who is running the show? I doubt Bush was. I doubt Obama is. They both are doing the exact same things. Whose playing who? The Pentagon is a multi-tentacled entity. Do some looking on your own.

      Be cautious though, because, the ridiculous (with no credible science behind it) will come along, as these things tend to go in propaganda strategies, the ridiculous, as in the form of a genuine “alien UFOs and such, who throws in their poisonous 2 cents, will override, taint that, the rest of the data, which is solid, which is plentiful, scientifically sound, accredited with peer-review, a “ridiculous opinion, supposedly on the side of facts and science, throwing in a cartoon overshadowing the credibility of the science. People apparently believe what they most want to believe. What’s the thing about…”if you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem”.

      The freedom one has, when they own the most massive multi-tentacled power source, known as network ownership. See for yourself just how much media Rupert Murdoch owns. Research it! There is now only 6. (666, kidding, just 6)

      You own peoples’ minds if you own the media. Make sure you and your own judgement, and conscience is your own. We are now getting less and less diversity. DANGEROUS for democracy.

      Anyway. I’ll say good-night for now. Forgive my rant.

    13. Oh, I came across a great quotation, that YOU WILL LIKE ALOT, by a fellow named CHIMNOY: “When the power of Love owerpowers the Love of power, the World will Know Peace.”

    14. I think blubonnet makes many valid points, backed up by citations and quotes from well-known leaders of all stripes. I share her compassion for the powerless and concern for the excessive use of military power to solve problems.

      Dana claims:“Thing is, neoconservatives recognize that that day has not yet arrived.”

      Right, and these neocons, Dick Cheney being the most obvious example, have lead this nation into spilling blood and treasure for unjust causes. Informed Americans, having nothing to do with partisan ideology, are livid about their evil arrogance of power. Bush-43 fell for their line. I’ll bet he would not if he could do it all over again.

      As for John Bolton, yes he is arrogant, he is rude, he is nasty, and, he is no diplomat, and, he is not always right. In my view, he represents the very worst of American arrogance and diplomacy, a neocon in spades.

      And, Bolton is wrong about dealing with Iran, in my view. Iran, given the history of the way they have been treated by the West since the ’70’s, especially by us (the CIA), and with a heavily nuclear armed enemy nearby, it is no wonder to me that they are untrusting and fanatical. Yet in spite of all this, there is a growing element within Iran which wants closer ties to the West. Therefore, while putting diplomatic pressure on the hard-liners, we must continue to show our moral support to the restless younger demographic in Iran.

      If Israel thinks they can enhance their security by attacking Iran, the unintended consequences of such an action would be huge. Instead, we must continue diplomacy, backed by severe sanctions when/where appropriate. Note well that both China and Russia have now signed on to the idea of sanctions, quite remarkably. As a last resort, we can always use the surgical strike approach, but presently, we are no where near that point yet, in my view. We must also hold off Israel for now, as a strike by them right now would be a must unstabilizing event in the region.

    15. Thank you, Perry. Did you see see this video clip? This is the result of the many bad decisions of the Neo-cons. We know of course that it’s all about acquisition, not “saving the Afghanistan people”. The lies of the Neo-cons have been tragic and egregious. This of course is just a micro perspective. This horror in this video can be multiplied by God knows how many times, which would be throughout the middle-east, although the DU (depleted uranium) concentrated in Fallujah is especially bad.


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