Common Sense Political Thought

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1. 

   Nangleator:

   The Lord of the Rings has 1137 pages. I’ve read it probably six times. And there were some other books in there. There’s a difference between “cannot be read” and “it’s so long!”
   You should actually feel pretty good if that’s your only substantive problem with it.
   Of course, the teabagger protests are going to be hilarious. “We objekt to rilly hard to rede stuff!” and “big gummint books hurt our brainz!” and “only moran fagerts have time to reed!”

   19 November 2009, 7:35 am
2. 

   Eric:

   The Lord of the Rings has 1137 pages. I’ve read it probably six times.

   Fine, but novels aren’t the same as laws. Since when do we need 2,000 pages of crap to somehow fix health care? Who could possibly read all that, let alone understand it before voting on it?

   19 November 2009, 1:06 pm
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   ropelight:

   Oh Wow, Lord of the Rings 6 times. That’s heavy dude. You sure got one heck of an advanced intellect goin’ for yourself there. That’s really big boy stuff, for sure.

   There’s lots of big words in them high falutin books, Right On! yeah, way to go. You must be so proud of yourself.

   19 November 2009, 1:59 pm
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   Nangleator:

   It wasn’t bragging. Jeez, just trying to put it into perspective. It’s not like 2,000 pages is beyond human comprehension. Humans wrote the friggin thing!

   19 November 2009, 2:26 pm
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   Yorkshire:

   Nangleator:
   It wasn’t bragging. Jeez, just trying to put it into perspective. It’s not like 2,000 pages is beyond human comprehension. Humans wrote the friggin thing!

   Strong assumption there.

   19 November 2009, 2:41 pm
6. 

   donviti:

   blame the lobbyists on the size.

   19 November 2009, 3:06 pm
7. 

   JohnC.:

   Dana Pico, you need a disclaimer for posts like the above #1 post. Try:

   “This post has not been fact checked by AP nor has the poster been cleared by the American Psychiatric Association.”

   19 November 2009, 5:49 pm
8. 

   Harrison:

   A lot of trees died to give life to this Liberal BS.

   20 November 2009, 3:28 am
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   Yorkshire:

   2000 pages, 10 hours of alleged debate, and Hairy Reed wants a vote tomorrow night at 8pm. And Mary Landrieu sold her vote for a measly $100M bribe, oooops, additional Mediscare money in her state in a contrived convoluted language. And these 2000+ pages are just jammed packed with new taxes on everything. There isn’t a hole deep enough in HELL for anyone who votes for this. If this finally passes, throw the Constitution away because everything you do will be linked to healthcare. These scumbags are worst than communists.

   20 November 2009, 7:54 am
10. 

    John Hitchcock:

    20 November 2009, 9:40 am
11. 

    Sharon:

    Law school students typically have to read 500 pages a night for one class. When lawmakers declare they can’t read a bill before voting on it (especially the attorneys among them), they’re lying.

    20 November 2009, 11:41 am
12. 

    John Hitchcock:

    A little girl (famous now) did some research on the House health care boondoggle:

    * Creation of a government-run health plan that experts say would result in up to 114 million Americans losing their current coverage-a clear violation of any pledge to allow individuals to keep their current health plan;
    * Nearly half a trillion dollars in tax increases on certain income filers, a majority of whom are small businesses-and $729.5 billion in tax increases overall;
    * Insurance regulations that would raise costs for nearly all Americans, particularly young Americans, and confine choice of plans to those approved by a board of bureaucrats;
    * New price controls on health insurance companies that provide perverse incentives to keep individuals sick rather than managing chronic disease, while impeding patient access to important services just because those services do not provide a direct clinical benefit;
    * Additional federal mandates that would significantly erode the flexibility currently provided to employers-and could result in firms dropping coverage;
    * Massive expansion of Medicaid to all individuals with incomes below 150 percent of the Federal Poverty Level ($33,075 for a family of four), replacing the existing private health coverage of millions with taxpayer-funded health care-and imposing tens of billions of dollars in new unfunded mandates on States;
    * Denial of health plan choice to 15 million Americans, consigning them instead to a Medicaid program riddled with bureaucratic obstacles and poor access to care, such that its own beneficiaries do not consider it “real insurance;”
    * Language opening employers operating group health plans to State law remedies and private causes of action-subjecting employers to review by 50 different State court rulings, thereby raising costs and encouraging more employers to drop their current health plans;
    * Liability “reforms” intended to ensure trial lawyers do not have their compensation reduced, rather than meaningful changes that would reduce the cost of health care by eliminating wasteful defensive medicine practices;
    * Establishment of a bureaucrat-run health Exchange that would abolish the private market for individual insurance outside the Exchange-and could evolve into a single-payer approach due to the Exchange’s ability to cannibalize existing employer plans;
    * Creation of a new government board, the “Health Benefits Advisory Committee,” that would empower federal bureaucrats to impose new mandates on individuals and insurance carriers;
    * Taxation of individuals who do not purchase a level of health coverage that meets the diktats of a board of bureaucrats-including those who cannot afford the coverage options provided;
    * New, job-killing taxes-$135 billion worth-on employers who cannot afford to provide their workers health insurance, resulting in up to 5.5 million lost jobs, according to a model developed by President Obama’s chief economic advisor;
    * Penalties as high as $500,000 on employers who make honest mistakes when filing paperwork with the government health board-which would likely dissuade businesses from continuing to provide coverage, increasing enrollment in the bureaucrat-run Exchange;
    * “Low-income” health insurance subsidies to a family of four making up to $88,200;
    * Arbitrary and harmful cuts to popular Medicare Advantage plans that would result in millions of seniors losing their current health coverage; and
    * Expanded price controls on pharmaceutical products that would discourage companies from producing life-saving breakthrough treatments.

    She has a lot more to say over there, like she has grown past using wiki as a reliable source. And she quoted Madison (a different quote than those I gave).

    23 November 2009, 10:16 am
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    Yorkshire:

    donviti:
    blame the lobbyists on the size.

    I thought BO banned lobbyists, or is it just certain lobbyists? Or are they banned in certain parts of the White House, except for Andy Stern and the SEIU.

    23 November 2009, 11:05 am

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