Christians Take It On The Chin Again in Movie 2012
It’s an end of the world supposed thriller. The producers destroy everything on earth with scenes of Christian Sites being destroyed along with cities, major landmarks and whatever else came in their way, except for Muslim sites. Here’s from Wiki as to WHY!
[edit] Controversy
In his previous movies, Emmerich has destroyed many landmark buildings, The Empire State Building in Independence Day, The Chrysler Building and Madison Square Gardens in Godzilla and The Hollywood Sign and The Capitol Records building in The Day After Tomorrow. In 2012, he destroyed The Sistine Chapel in the Vatican, St. Peter’s Basilica in the Vatican, Christ the Redeemer statue in Rio de Janeiro, the Argentine Congress building in Buenos Aires, the Washington Monument and The White House. However he refused to destroy the Kaaba, the Islamic holy site, for fear of fatwa by the Islamic extremists.[32][33][34]
According to one website, [35] when asked, Emmerich said:
Well, I wanted to do that, I have to admit. But my co-writer Harald said, “I will not have a fatwa on my head because of a movie.” And he was right. … We have to all … in the Western world … think about this. You can actually … let … Christian symbols fall apart, but if you would do this with [an] Arab symbol, you would have … a fatwa, and that sounds a little bit like what the state of this world is. So it’s just something which I kind of didn’t [think] was [an] important element, anyway, in the film, so I kind of left it out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_(film)
Other Dana:
Surrendering this small freedom to fear is only the first step. See: Holland, England, France, etc. For their cowardice, I hope the movie bombs. What fools - they showed their belly to the enemy. There is no respect to be garnered from that.
13 November 2009, 10:39 pmSharon:
We don’t need government censorship.
14 November 2009, 12:04 amropelight:
This sort of self-censorship represents today’s reality. Attack Christianity and you might get a few complaints and a letter to the editor, but attack Islam and you’ll become a target for brutal murder. The erosion of our freedom and liberty will not cease over time, it will only get pervasively worse.
Unless we are willing to blow up the Kaaba and kill the terrorists wholesale to the point they fear to threaten us, we will live in freedom only so long as they take to organize our genocide. With Barack Hussein Obama as Commander-in-Chief that fate draws closer every day.
14 November 2009, 6:34 amNangleator:
You think buildings falling down in a disaster movie is an attack on Christianity? If you pressed me, I might have to admit it’s more of an attack on masonry and metallurgy. It’s not like all the nondenominational buildings are left standing.
If you want to fly your fundamentalist flag, why not point out that 2012 is just the end of a cycle of the Mayan calendar, and call them pagans or heathens? Hell, our calendar ends every year at December 31, but the world hardly ever ends, then. Does that mean the movie producers believe in false gods?
But this post is specifically about the fear of Muslims and how to deal with it. I don’t doubt that there are enough mad dogs out there to worry about, who think that anything on screen is real, like the people who fainted when that first silent film showed a locomotive heading towards the camera. The movie producer didn’t “show his belly to the enemy.” He’s a movie producer, not a soldier. He doesn’t want to risk sacrificing himself and his family because of a silly film.
Of course, I’d like to think I’d make the braver choice, and go all Salman Rushdie on them. After all, the mad dogs would be going after the Mayans, if they gave it any thought at all.
14 November 2009, 11:15 amOther Dana:
Nangleator, when it comes to the move of Islam on the West, everyone is in essence, a soldier. Whether on the smallest scale, or a much larger one, every giving in, every bit of surrender, every time a choice is made to give up one of our liberties because of the fear of Muslim extremists reaction, it is indeed to show our belly to the enemy. Ask yourself this: who was ultimately in control of the “movie producer”? Did he make an independent decision based upon on his creative wants/needs for the movie to be the best it could be? Or were his decisions controlled by the mere possibility of suffering retaliation?
It’s naivete like yours that contributes to the rolling over and it always starts in slow, small almost seemingly innocuous ways.
14 November 2009, 2:45 pmJohn Hitchcock:
Dear woman of the Jimmy Choos throwing championship,
I have always seen Nangleator’s words as irrelevant piles of goo to be avoided; thus, I have never directly responded to anything he incoherently says. Nangleator is worse than Perry in many ways, and almost on the level of Pooter/Blu in others. As such, I am entirely uncertain how wise it is to consider to engage Nangleator directly.
Yours truly,
14 November 2009, 3:08 pmOne of your chauvinistic shoe collectors.
Nangleator:
There’s clearly something very worrisome about the techniques that Muslim clerics are using to great effect in Europe. I’ve been watching Pat Condell’s videos on Youtube. It definitely going to be a fight, if it isn’t one now. I just didn’t see this as a part of the fight, but you might be right. He really shouldn’t have backed off before any Muslim said or did anything.
I’m going to go out on a limb on this one, and say that this is the only case of arguments actually changing someone’s mind on this blog. May be the last time, too.
However, I stand by my statement that buildings collapsing in a disaster movie isn’t an attack on any ideology, even if some of those buildings seem to have an ideology.
Oh, and John… I take pride in my chosen detractors on this site.
15 November 2009, 9:20 amDana Pico:
I guess it’s just that we Christians have learned to turn the other cheek.
15 November 2009, 9:29 amYorkshire:
But if you look at England, and I think we’re only a few years behind them, they are allowing Sharia Law to be used in certain areas. That along with Canada, and in parts of Michigan. With England there is almost two sets of laws governing two sets of people. The last time we tried that, there was a Civil War.
15 November 2009, 11:25 amYorkshire:
And I agree, it was nuts that the producer announced his Dhimmitude to the Muslims.
15 November 2009, 11:26 amDana Pico:
One wonders what the reaction from our Islamic brethren have been had he shown the destruction of the al-Aqsa Mosque amidst the destruction of Jerusalem in general — the holiest city for the Jews — and destruction of the Vatican, all montaged together. A reasonable person wouldn’t claim that this was an attack on a particular faith, but was just general destruction, given that plenty of secular institutions were also depicted as having been destroyed.
The situation would have been different from The Satanic Verses or the Mohammad cartoons in that regard. Because Roland Emmerich decided to
pre-emptively surrendernot take a chance, we can’t actually know what the reaction would have been.What Mr Emmerich did was to assume that the Muslims would have reacted negatively.
15 November 2009, 12:02 pmYorkshire:
What Mr Emmerich did was to assume that the Muslims would have reacted negatively.
Past performance is an indicator of the future.
15 November 2009, 12:09 pmHarrison:
Wow.
15 November 2009, 1:32 pmEric:
I’m not too concerned about this because, from looking at the commercials, this movie will just plain suck. Roland Emmerich is not exactly original, it seems like every movie he’s made is a replay of his Independence Day, ya know, lots of explosions, famous landmarks being destroyed, all wrapped up in some apocalyptic vision of the future. The last movie of his I saw was The Day After Tomorrow, an Al Gore wet dream which I savaged in a short review on IMDb.com.
In short, I just can’t get very upset of the actions of another Emmerich disaster movie. It this were a serious film by a serious director, that would be another thing, but it isn’t.
15 November 2009, 1:50 pmYorkshire:
If Roland Emmerich is thinking the following However he refused to destroy the Kaaba, the Islamic holy site, for fear of fatwa by the Islamic extremists. What will the Jurors for the Shieks trial in NYC think?
15 November 2009, 4:16 pmOther Dana:
Yorkshire, no kidding, you’ve got that right.
15 November 2009, 5:30 pmKayla:
I agree. A fatwa wouldn’t really be worth it, now would it? But look at all of those ellipses in that quote. I don’t trust quotes with that many breaks in them. http://www.newsy.com/videos/2012_disaster_film_sparks_doomsday_fears
15 November 2009, 7:48 pm