Tear Down This Wall

Hat Tip to Jeff, who accidentally inspired me to write this.

As we remember the falling of the Berlin Wall, let us remember also what two former Presidents said.

“Today, the proudest boast is Ich bin ein Berliner (I am a Berliner).” JFK announced his (and our) solidarity with Berliners.

“There are many people in the world who really don’t understand, or say they don’t, what is the great issue between the free world and the communist world. LET THEM COME TO BERLIN!” JFK clearly said those with communist values do not have values of freedom for the people.

We all know the “Tear down this wall!” demand. It will live for 100 years.

But here’s a couple other things Reagan said: “As long as this gate is closed, as long as this scar of a wall is permitted to stand, it is not the German question alone that remains open, but the question of freedom for all mankind.” Very clearly, as the stark wall in Berlin showed, the difference between communism and freedom is visible to all who wish to see. One only needs to look at the sharp difference in affluence from one side of the wall to the other.

“[J]ust as truth can flourish only when the journalist is given freedom of speech, so prosperity can come about only when the farmer and businessman enjoy economic freedom.” Reagan railed at the comunist clamp on freedom of the press just as he railed against the oppression of farmers and businessmen in the communist regimes.

Today, we have a President who rails against the press that is giving him a black eye. Today, we have a congress that is doing its best to fetter farmers and businessmen with undue restraints. Today, we have executive-branch officials who espouse Mao (the communist murderer of 60 million of his own people). Today, we have a government that wants to take over one sixth of the free market after it already took over two of the big three automakers, much of the banking industry, etc, ad nauseum. Today, we have a President who air-mailed his “It’s all about me; electing a black man to President” speech to Germany for a celebration of the falling of the wall.

And for all you nut-jobs who even come close to trying to equate the Berlin Wall with our desires for a wall/fence on our southern border, do learn some history. The Berlin Wall was designed to keep East Berliners out of (completely surrounded) West Berlin. And it was built by Communist Germany and Communist USSR (who owned East Berlin). The wall was built by communists to keep their own people from escaping communism.

And for a bit of music to mark the occasion, we have some Scorpions, which I cannot embed.
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Cross Posted on Truth Before Dishonor

26 Comments

  1. the equation is simply that building walls or fences between countries is a really stupid idea & a waste of money – do learn how to parse a comparison before you make yourself look silly

  2. Right on, cbmc!

    Typical John, all about hyperbolic criticism, nothing about solutions, except to wish to repeat the past mistakes of the unfettered, greedy free marketeers.

    This extremist philosophy is continuing to drag this nation down, in my view. John himself is a victim, but he doesn’t even realize it as he goes about spreading his quasi religious tyrannical political fervor/fever/hatred. In him we find a frustrated and extremely angered man, lashing out in every direction, sadly! John has a wall around him that HE needs to tear down!!

    These absolutists, like John, fail to understand that a balance is needed against the wealthy elite who strive to call all the shots, so the government has no choice but to step in to negotiate that choice. The only caveat: The government needs to represent all of the people, rather than the wealthy elite, as it does now. So restoring power to the people is a priority.

    Changing this situation is part of what President Obama is all about. This is why he is on the receiving end of some of the most vicious and outrageous personal attacks I’ve seen in my lifetime, from some on the right who should know better, and from the mentally disturbed, ignorant far right extremes, in my view. These people are hysterical, meaning out of touch and in denial of reality.

    Here is one of a long list of outrages found right here:: “Beck: Obama is a “racist” and “has a deep-seated hatred for white people, or the white culture.” Glenn Beck has said: “This president, I think, has exposed himself as a guy — over and over and over again — who has a deep-seated hatred for white people, or the white culture — I don’t know what it is. But you can’t sit in a pew with Jeremiah Wright for 20 years and not hear some of that stuff and not have it wash over.” He later added, “I’m not saying that he doesn’t like white people. I’m saying he has a problem. He has a — this guy is, I believe, a racist. Look at the way — look at the things he has been surrounded by.” [Fox & Friends, 7/28/09]“

  3. So Perry, you believe Glenn Beck is an “outrage”? Have you seen the videos of Wright’s sermons? What he said about whites and America? That’s an outrage! And Obama was his parishioner. Did you read the statement by Obama that his grandmother was: “a typical white woman”. Is that not at least a tinge of racism?

    And what would you do with Beck? Confiscate his money? After all he is a “greedy free marketeer”. Perhaps a stint in a re-education camp? Or just take away his first ammendment rights?

    I’ll tell you what’s an outrage. Every state run by Democrats is bankrupt. Every social program instituted by and administered by Democrats is bankrupt. Every major city run by Democrats is bankrupt and most look like Berlin in 1945. If we didn’t spend 1.4 trillion in stimulus and bailouts unemployment would have gone to 9%. We did and now it’s 10.2%. That’s an outrage.

    You need to save your indignation for those things which are truely outrageous, not the editorial opinion of one man who you most likely don’t watch anyway. I’m not outraged at Keith Olbermann. I think he’s a baffoon, a caricature of the liberal mind. An idiot and an ass hole. But I just turn the channel. As a matter of fact I think they should keep him on TV to remind us what crass dick heads liberals are.

    And those “mistakes of unfettered, greedy free marketeers” you refer to, aren’t. They are capitalists, not free marketers. They were and still are in bed with the very government you look to as messiah. They gave twice the money in bribes (read campaign contributions) to Democrats as to Republicans. Do your research. And if the power were reversed, the Repubs would have gotten more. They represent big business, big labor and big spending and they are in bed with big government. There is nothing free market about them or their government enablers. They are all about power and force. I’m a free marketer and I can’t make one single person eat at my restaurants or shop at my center. I don’t own one lobbiest or have one congressan on my speed dial. But I hire the people that make America work. And I pay the taxes to finance what America spends. But if I want to opt out of nationalized healthcare I will be subject to $250,000 fine and five years in prison. That’s an outrage

  4. A Democrat once said, “Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country,” and a famous Black American leader once said he wanted to be judged by the content of his character, not the color of his skin.

    But today’s Democrats don’t say things like that anymore. They’re busy shouting down senior citizens, making excuses for Islamic terrorists, demonstrating their inhumanity, and worshiping false gods. They call themselves “Progressives,” but they’re really just brain dead bully boys in service to despotism. They wouldn’t have been welcome in the party of JFK, nor would Martin Luther King have suffered their vile prejudice.

  5. JohnC: Here is what I wrote: “The government needs to represent all of the people, rather than the wealthy elite, as it does now. So restoring power to the people is a priority.”

    My statement was not specific to any one party. So we agree on that.

    I understand your distinction between capitalists and free marketeers. That’s fine.

    Making my point about the outrages of Glenn Beck stands; please note that I do not claim the outrages are confined to the Right, but I do think nowadays they predominate. We don’t need them.

    On the health care mandate issue, I agree with it, for the sake of spreading the risk to keep costs down, and for the sake of universal coverage, to provide needed health care to all, and to reduce providers’ (hospitals and doctors) overhead.

    You already provide health insurance for your employees, so you could continue with what you are doing. Why would you wish to opt out? If premiums happen to increase, you have options other than opting out. Premiums have been increasing anyway. The hope is that with properly worded health care reform, the premiums will come down. Let’s see what the final bill stipulates.

  6. This extremist philosophy is continuing to drag this nation down, in my view. John himself is a victim, but he doesn’t even realize it as he goes about spreading his quasi religious tyrannical political fervor/fever/hatred. In him we find a frustrated and extremely angered man, lashing out in every direction, sadly! John has a wall around him that HE needs to tear down!!
    These absolutists, like John, fail to understand that a balance is needed against the wealthy elite who strive to call all the shots, so the government has no choice but to step in to negotiate that choice. The only caveat: The government needs to represent all of the people, rather than the wealthy elite, as it does now. So restoring power to the people is a priority.

    Perry, you sound like a nut! You need to chill out, take some Ritalin, or something …

  7. Eric, instead of just calling me a “nut”, a weak response by you, why not engage in a dialog about the substance of my comment?

  8. Here is one of a long list of outrages found right here:: “Beck: Obama is a “racist” and “has a deep-seated hatred for white people, or the white culture.” Glenn Beck has said: “This president, I think, has exposed himself as a guy — over and over and over again — who has a deep-seated hatred for white people, or the white culture — I don’t know what it is. But you can’t sit in a pew with Jeremiah Wright for 20 years and not hear some of that stuff and not have it wash over.” He later added, “I’m not saying that he doesn’t like white people. I’m saying he has a problem. He has a — this guy is, I believe, a racist. Look at the way — look at the things he has been surrounded by.” [Fox & Friends, 7/28/09]“

    Sorry, Perry, but that’s not outrageous, but just plain good common sense. Obama was rather clever in the way he tossed his old preacher under the bus when political expediency called for it, and the media was happy to go along. But facts is facts, Rev Wright is a whacko of the first order, and he was also Obama’s spiritual mentor for 20 years. That says something pretty big and powerful about the sort of influences in his life, and Beck is right to call him on it.

  9. PS To John H, terrific article! We’ve almost forgotten what it meant for the Wall to come down. Too bad that message got lost as Perry went off on one of his rants.

  10. Eric, instead of just calling me a “nut”, a weak response by you, why not engage in a dialog about the substance of my comment?

    There was no substance; it had nothing to do at all with John’s piece about the Berlin Wall, it was just a rant about John personally along with another rant against Glenn Beck.

  11. Eric: Sorry, Eric, I refuse to be influenced by the guilt by association game that you like so much. Obama does not exhibit any of the extremism that Wright represented in several of his sermons.

    I also don’t think John’s post was “terrific”, for reasons already stated.

    Let us try to deal with facts, instead of hyperbolic fear mongering.

  12. From above:

    Fact 1: Today, we have a President who rails against the press that is giving him a black eye.

    Fact 2: Today, we have a congress that is doing its best to fetter farmers and businessmen with undue restraints.

    Fact 3: Today, we have executive-branch officials who espouse Mao (the communist murderer of 60 million of his own people).

    Fact 4: Today, we have a government that wants to take over one sixth of the free market after it already took over two of the big three automakers, much of the banking industry, etc, ad nauseum.

    Fact 5 (with a little stylizing): Today, we have a President who air-mailed his “It’s all about me; electing a black man to President” speech to Germany for a celebration of the falling of the wall.

    Fact 6: The Berlin Wall was designed to keep East Berliners out of (completely surrounded) West Berlin.

    Fact 7: And it was built by Communist Germany and Communist USSR (who owned East Berlin).

    Fact 8: The wall was built by communists to keep their own people from escaping communism.

    Fact 9: President John F Kennedy said, “There are many people in the world who really don’t understand, or say they don’t, what is the great issue between the free world and the communist world. LET THEM COME TO BERLIN!”

    Fact 10: The Eastern Bloc nations were Communist, Statist nations.

    Fact 11: The free nations were much more affluent than the Communist, Statist nations.

    Fact 12: The free nations are still more affluent than the Statist nations.

    Fact 13: This nation is becoming more Statist as time goes on, and vastly accelerating today.

    Fact 14: Perry has never acknowledged citations he has demanded when he told several people they made stuff up.

    Fact 15: Perry has made regular use of authoritarian language.

    Fact 16: Perry has more than once attempted to censor people.

    There are some facts.

  13. Eric: Sorry, Eric, I refuse to be influenced by the guilt by association game that you like so much. Obama does not exhibit any of the extremism that Wright represented in several of his sermons.

    For one, we don’t know how much radicalism Obama absorbed just because he doesn’t speak like his former preacher. I think it’s there, but hidden. Just think of how his associations with radical Islamists influenced Major Hasan, yet he never acted on it until last week.

  14. Perry wrote:

    On the health care mandate issue, I agree with it, for the sake of spreading the risk to keep costs down, and for the sake of universal coverage, to provide needed health care to all, and to reduce providers’ (hospitals and doctors) overhead.

    Then based on this theory all labor unions, government employees and politicians should likewise be forced to join, n’est pas?

  15. As a matter of fact perhaps labor unions, government employees and politicians and their respective families should be forced to join first. Then after using the new system for say two years they can give an honest appraisal of how wonderful it is for the rest of us.

  16. And BO went to Berlin for a photo-op campaign stop, but on a real reason to go to Berlin, he sent the Sec. of Shrill. I guess the fall of the Wall was a dark day for “progressives”, but it hasn’t stopped them from resurrecting the symbols of the wall here, control.

  17. JohnC“Then based on this theory all labor unions, government employees and politicians should likewise be forced to join, n’est pas?”

    “If you like your insurance, you can keep it.” That applies to everyone, you too John, and your employees.

    Moreover, your quote here was not a response to this: “On the health care mandate issue, I agree with it, for the sake of spreading the risk to keep costs down, and for the sake of universal coverage, to provide needed health care to all, and to reduce providers’ (hospitals and doctors) overhead.”

    Do you agree with this concept, John?

  18. Yorkshire:“And BO went to Berlin for a photo-op campaign stop, but on a real reason to go to Berlin, he sent the Sec. of Shrill. I guess the fall of the Wall was a dark day for “progressives”, but it hasn’t stopped them from resurrecting the symbols of the wall here, control.”

    You are serious, right Yorkshire?

    If so, your deep anger is showing loudly!

    Go out and take some more beautiful photographs.

  19. Eric:“I think it’s [Obama's radicalism] there, but hidden.”

    You have no evidence for that statement, therefore it is an assumption that leans toward being a straw man. That’s weak, Eric! On the other hand, Hasan has been exhibiting symptoms for quite some time, as we continue to learn, therefore no assumptions. Thus, the military is guilty of negligence in their handling of Hasan, and look what the subject of their negligence ultimately produced. Outrageous!

  20. Perry:
    Yorkshire:“And BO went to Berlin for a photo-op campaign stop, but on a real reason to go to Berlin, he sent the Sec. of Shrill. I guess the fall of the Wall was a dark day for “progressives”, but it hasn’t stopped them from resurrecting the symbols of the wall here, control.”

    You are serious, right Yorkshire?

    If so, your deep anger is showing loudly!

    Perry, did BO go to Berlin for a photo-op or not? The Fall of Communism is one of the greatest stories of the 20th Century. Other World Leaders were there for the celebration. BO could run to Copenhagen for the Olympics, but could not celebrate the Fall of Communism. Hillary couldn’t bring herself to mention Reagan or Pope John-Paul for the Fall Of The Wall.

  21. Perry:
    Yorkshire:
    Go out and take some more beautiful photographs.

    It’s too yucky today. It’s all Ida’s fault. And I was going to finish cleaning the garden and plant bulbs for next year.

  22. Perry wrote:

    Obama does not exhibit any of the extremism that Wright represented in several of his sermons.

    He doesn’t? He has chosen Mark Lloyd to be the FCC’s Chief Diversity Officer’ Lloyd is rather famous for having suggested that “We’re in a position where you have to say who is going to step down so someone else can have power,” meaning that white people will have to be forced from their jobs so that blacks can have some of them. He appointed Van Jones, a free Mumia advocate and 9/11 truther, to be the “green jobs tsar.” He has appointed people who have said that Mao Tse-tung was a great philosopher and that Hugo Chavez is leading a great, democratic revolution.

    Do you think that President Obama is somehow appointing people with whom he greatly disagrees?

  23. “If you like your insurance, you can keep it.” That applies to everyone, you too John, and your employees.

    And if you believe that, I’ve got a moldy old biplane I’d like to sell you at F-15 prices.

    Seriously, the whole point of this gargantuan mess of a 2,000 page bill is to expand gov’t run health care at the expense of private health insurance. Just look at Pelosi, who’s been on a months long Jihad against the insurance Co’s. Given these facts and others, just how realistic is it to assume that access to regular private insurance will be unaffected?

  24. You have no evidence for that statement, therefore it is an assumption that leans toward being a straw man. That’s weak, Eric!

    Not at all. Dana answered this point quite well, but I’d like to add that you don’t sit in a church for 20 years if you don’t agree with and approve of most of the attitudes that come from the pulpit. Obama tossed Wright under the bus for political convenience and out of political calculation, not because he was personally offended by his (Wright’s) positions. That’s not “Weak” at all, it’s just common sense.

  25. n the other hand, Hasan has been exhibiting symptoms for quite some time, as we continue to learn, therefore no assumptions.

    My point about Hasan is twofold. One, he clearly was influenced by the ideology of the people he had associated with. This is a natural human tendency. As someone pointed out recently, you can judge a person fairly well by their companions. Criminals hang out with other criminals, druggies with druggies, drunks with drunks, and so on.

    The second point is that Hasan did a pretty good job of hiding his radicalism during his Army career until the violence exploded last week. There were some signs of potential trouble, but nothing blatantly obvious enough to raise any serious red flags. Ditto for Obama. He talks a good game, he knew he had to put on a “Centrist” act to get elected, but there are, as Dana pointed out, definite signs that he sympathizes with radicals, judging by some of the people he surrounds himself with just for starters. Then there are statements like “I want to fundamentally transform America”. What on Earth is that supposed to mean, other than that he’s a radical at heart who wants to make radical changes to this country?

  26. If so, your deep anger is showing loudly!

    And you’re about as good at psycho-analyzing people as Major Hasan!

    Seriously, York doesn’t sound angry. His post was rather pithy and humorous, pointing out that, to far left radicals, the Berlin Wall symbolized everything they held near & dear, namely the preservation of their beloved USSR. He was also dead on in pointing out that Hillary never once mentioned Reagan or Pope JP II in her remarks. Why, other than either left wing ideology or else a partisanship that refused to give credit to a leader of the other Party?

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