Any Guesses? Ft. Hood.
12 dead at the processing center to include the gunman, a civilian contract policeman (most mp’s are overseas) the others were out processing for deployment, and 30 injured.
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Yorkshire:
An Army Major, a Psychiatrist was the shooter.
http://abcnews.go.com/m/screen?id=9007938
5 November 2009, 6:46 pmJohnC.:
His name is Hasan. Irish?
5 November 2009, 8:30 pmYorkshire:
At first they said he was dead, but now they say he is wounded and in the hospital under guard. Had a hard time with muslims fighting muslims. Had a poor rating while practicing at WRAMC. Was scheduled to be deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan but didn’t want to go. Had issues with the war.
A psychiatrist unable to heal himself. So, the obvious thing to do is shoot the place up????
On a side note, my son gets back from the sand box of the muddled east, Iraq, on Sunday.
5 November 2009, 9:31 pmPerry:
Graduated from VA Tech, 6 years medical school on the government tab, got poor performance ratings during military training, wrote negative messages on the net, did not want to deploy to Iraq. Here we have a psychiatrist specializing in treatment of stress disorders who was so stressed himself that he relieved it by opening fire with two handguns blazing, killing 12 and wounding 31.
I realize this information is premature and possibly inaccurate, there are so few facts so far, but still, the fact of the act itself causes me to wonder again at the attention that the military gives to the care of their own.
It brings to mind again the negligence uncovered at Walter Reed.
And it brings to my mind the futility of war, what war does to those engaged in it, especially when peaceful alternatives have not been exhausted.
I hope that this incident will sound alarm bells again, this time louder than ever.
5 November 2009, 9:42 pmYorkshire:
Perry:
It brings to mind again the negligence uncovered at Walter Reed.
What does mold in a building and the building needing a new roof have to do with Hasan shooting up Ft. Hood?
5 November 2009, 10:05 pmPerry:
It’s another example of gross negligence, as I see it now. This man was a poor performer and had a bad attitude. Certainly his superiors should have known this, as we’ve been told already that his negativity was well known. You don’t send a person like this to counsel combat troops who are under maximum stress themselves. That has the appearance of negligence to me, Yorkshire.
And by the way, at Walter Reed, it was a lot more than mold and a new roof, there were seriously wounded Iraq War vets who were sitting around waiting for treatment for long periods of time, in limbo. When WaPo made the details public, the Commander was discharged and the situation fixed real fast. Negligence was the culprit; it was shameful!
5 November 2009, 10:21 pmOther Dana:
Of course the MSM is ignoring the Muslim aspect of this story. They (and others) would rather go with the stressed out military meme re Dr. Hasan, who, although never previously deployed, felt the only way to avoid being deployed was to go on a shooting rampage and killing others.
No mention of the interview
with his previous colleague and the anti-American comments, the statements made by him suggesting “maybe the Muslims should stand up and fight against the aggressor”.
Also, if you listen to the interview, he states that Hasan commented that he was “ sort of happy” about a shooting at a Little Rock recruitment center and other possibly very troubling postings he wrote.
But as a commenter here stated, “this information is premature and possibly inaccurate, there are so few facts so far…, so perhaps no speculation of any kind should be made - just the facts, eh?
[Released from moderation (after I posted below) -- JH]
5 November 2009, 10:39 pmJohn Hitchcock:
Muslim, questionable response to the killing of military recruiter recently, many statements that “muslims need to stop the wars of aggression in Iraq and Afghanistan” something to that extent.
Laura is safe, Ft Hood is on lock-down.
5 November 2009, 11:05 pmJohn Hitchcock:
Off-topic announcement: If your comment goes to moderation after-hours (after Mr Pico shuts down), leave a brief note about it. I don’t always check for moderation but I’m here after-hours quite a bit.
5 November 2009, 11:22 pmDana Pico:
Perry wrote (combined from two comments):
Just because the situation was military doesn’t mean that the same bureaucratic attitudes found in civilian government and private industry don’t exist. Given that all of this existed, and was known, just what would the military have done with Major Hasan? The military is short on doctors, and the Major had an obligation to work off to the government. The option we’d normally think about, firing him, isn’t all that easy: you have to have all of your ducks in a row to fire an officer or even an enlisted man.
Some soldiers become non-deployable due to certain things: injuries and pregnancy are two examples. But to have made Major Hasan non-deployable to Iraq because he didn’t like the war would have been a huge step to take; then anybody in the Army who didn’t want to go to a combat zone could make himself non-deployable by posting negative web messages.
6 November 2009, 7:17 amPerry:
Dana:“The military is short on doctors, ….”
While I understand your reasoning, Dana, here is the key problem that was not resolved. I’m sorry, but that is negligence, the same sort of negligence which existed at Walter Reed, the incident I mentioned right here.
If the military is short on doctors, draft them. If the military is short on soldiers, draft them. Alternately, in my view, the military should be populated with draftees when duty to country demands it, so that we all are subject to bearing the pain of war. Dick Cheney, George Bush, Donald Rumsfeld and Condi Rice would have had to serve in Vietnam, so that we might be in a different, more peaceful place right now, lessons having been learned, as in John Kerry!
My ‘hidden’ agenda is, of course: If we had a draft, the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars would be ended post haste, so we could then focus on our commitments to these two besieged nations to provide security and rebuild the damage we’ve caused! Feel free to call me a ‘chicken’, its for a good cause. And by the way, I volunteered and served my time in the US Army on active duty overseas, fortunately for me not in combat, since we were between wars at that time in the late ’50’s.
It’s time we came to our senses, folks, and discontinue sending our young men and women to other sovereign nations with loaded AK-47s doing their thing, the same on the other side doing their thing, when there are peaceful alternatives that need to be invoked first. Let’s talk about the Israeli-Palestine situation!
6 November 2009, 8:37 amPerry:
other Dana:“Of course the MSM is ignoring the Muslim aspect of this story.”
This is not correct. What is correct is that the information on this man is only slowly trickling out. Because his last name is Hasan, do we assume he is Muslim? Turns out, however, he as, according to the MSM.
Since he is Muslim, do we blame Islam? Since Timothy McVey was Christian, do we blame Chistianity?
If guilty, we hold the perpetrator accountable for his/her actions.
That is not to say that preachers of hate, which we have in both religions, may bear responsibility, as their rabble-rousing preachings face their trials by exposure in the public square, fueled by those who yearn for love and peace!
6 November 2009, 8:51 amDana Pico:
From what I’ve read on other sites, it seems to me that there’s a whole lot of misinformation on Major Hasan out there. I’ve seen reports he was a life long Muslim, and others that he was a recent convert. I saw a posting the Major is supposed to have made, but it has all the grammar and erudition IO’d expect from a seventh grader, and Major Hasan was a highly educated man. I’ve seen postings which blame this as something we can simply expect from Muslims, and others which say that we can’t blame this on Islam. About the only thing that seems to be obviously true is that he was nuts.
6 November 2009, 9:10 amJeff:
About the only thing that seems to be obviously true is that he was nuts.
Yup. Seems to fit the Eric Harris/Cho Seung-Hui depressed-violent-nutball mold.
6 November 2009, 12:56 pmropelight:
News Flash: Japs Attack Pearl Harbor, Democrats Question Knee Jerk Response, caution against jumping to conclusions.
7 November 2009, 8:26 am