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Oh, I can’t wait for this! Live blogging Truthout.

In my e-mail box:

    Truthout will issue a statement on the Rove story today at 5:00 p.m. Pacific. The post will appear on our blog at: http://forum.truthout.org/blog.

Will it be:

  • We were wrong; or
  • We just got too far ahead of the story; or
  • He’s still going to be indicted; or
  • He cut a deal.
  • It’s 7:17 PM EDT as I type this; that’s 4:17 PM PDT. I can hardly wait! :)
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    I think it’s called “live blogging” when you are continually updating a single story as it happens.

    I went to the truthout blog a bit earlier than 8:00 PM, and found this story, Regarding Mr. Luskin’s Statements, by Marc Ash, posted yesterday at 02:44:19 PM EDT.

      We are stunned by the magnitude of the reaction to the article we published yesterday morning. We have put our cards on the table. We invite Mr. Luskin to do the same.

      To clarify: The entire basis for the information that “Rove has been cleared” comes from a verbal statement by Karl Rove’s attorney. No one else confirms that. As Karl Rove’s attorney Robert Luskin is bound to act – in all regards – in Rove’s best interest. We question his motives.

    You’ve just got to read the comments; while some of the Truthout readers have accepted the fact that Mr Leoplod‘s story was just flat wrong, the holdouts are still there, questioning the story since it came from Mr Rove’s attorney — as though, if he lied, such a lie would not have been almost immediately exposed.

    Live blogged @ 7:45 PM EDT

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    It’s 7:56 PM, and their statement still hasn’t appeared; I guess that they aren’t late — yet!
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    7:58 — Hot damn, they were two minutes early!

      Standing Down on the Rove Matter

      By Marc Ash,

      Wed Jun 14th, 2006 at 06:52:40 PM EDT :: Fitzgerald Investigation

      Yesterday, most Mainstream Media organizations published reports about a letter supposedly received by Karl Rove’s attorney Robert Luskin. As an example of the supposed letter’s contents, TIME Magazine stated that, “Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald said or wrote, ‘Absent any unexpected developments, he does not anticipate seeking any criminal charges against Rove.’”

      Truthout of course published an article on May 13 which reported that Karl Rove had in fact already been indicted. Obviously there is a major contradiction between our version of the story and what was reported yesterday. As such, we are going to stand down on the Rove matter at this time. We defer instead to the nation’s leading publications.

      In that Mr. Luskin has chosen the commercial press as his oracle – and they have accepted – we call upon those publications to make known the contents of the communiqué which Luskin holds at the center of his assertions. Quoting only those snippets that Mr. Luskin chooses to characterize in his statements is not enough. If Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald has chosen to exonerate Mr. Rove, let his words – in their entirety – be made public.

      Reporter Jason Leopold

      Mr. Leopold did not act alone in his reporting of this matter. His work, sources and conclusions were reviewed carefully at each step of the process. There is no indication that Mr. Leopold acted unethically.

      Please keep in mind that over the years we have reported on many examples of individuals being scapegoated in crisis situations by superiors seeking cover from controversy. Truthout, however, does not do scapegoats. And we stand firmly behind Jason Leopold.

      The Confidentiality of Our Sources

      As journalists, nothing is more critical to being able to report guarded facts than the guarantee of confidentiality we provide to our sources. Truthout has never compromised the identy of a confidential source. We will protect our sources on this story, as we have on every other story we have ever published.

      Expect a more comprehensive accounting of this matter on Monday, June 19.

      Marc Ash
      Executive Director – Truthout
      director@truthout.org

    What a bunch of bovine feces! They “stand firmly behind Jason Leopold.” Trouble is, despite Mr Ash’s assurances that Mr. Leopold’s “work, sources and conclusions were reviewed carefully at each step of the process,” and “There is no indication that Mr. Leopold acted unethically,” there is also no indication that he wrote truthfully.

    Mr. Ash is clinging to the fact that the actual letter was not released, but anyone with any common sense would know better than to pin a claim on that; letters to attorneys are confidential matters, and Robert Luskin knows full well that trying to sell a false claim on something like this would be exposed within days — if it were false. He could only do his client more harm if he lied about this, and might well be subject to Bar Association discipline.

    Of course, they’ll have more on this on Monday — after they figure out how to spin it better.

    I can’t wait until the tinfoil hat commenters add their say! :)

    7 Comments

    1. Rovin says:

      Their “dreams” are shattered Dana. And so is a big part of their credibility, which will be harder to swallow than Rove not being indited.

      As journalists, nothing is more critical to being able to report guarded facts than the guarantee of confidentiality we provide to our sources. Truthout has never compromised the identy of a confidential source. We will protect our sources on this story, as we have on every other story we have ever published.

      Where’s the beef Mr. Leopold? A journalist admits his/her mistakes asap
      to preserve what credibility they have left. Mr Ash may want to think about this. But Truthout is just a mini Rathergate.

    2. Dana says:

      Nahhh, Rov, you missed it: while a real journalist would admit his mistakes, Truthout does not house real journalists. Even some of the liberal sites have questioned upholding Mr Leopold as a serious journalist.

      I’m waiting now for a story that Karl Rove himself, knowing that there would be no indictment, had the story planted in Truthout, just to discredit them! :)

    3. Rovin says:

      I spent about an hour last night reading comments to this story at “truth-out-of-lies”. They might as well be a Kos-DU wanna-bees. Even liberals were calling for Ash to do a formal retraction and stop “lapdancing” this issue, and even they were attacked as trolls. One lady (on the site) kept asking “who are you?”, we don’t know you”. “Go Away”, like this site was her own private world where debate is not allowed.

      Please keep us updated on developments Dana.

      Thanks, Rov

    4. Dana says:

      Unfortunately, comments on truthout are not individually linked, so if you want to verify this one, you’ll have to go to the main story and page down to find it:

      I do believe that indictment DID exist, but that where it went from there, none yet knows, including Marc Ash and Jason Leopold. They obviously had even MORE reason to believe Rove was indicted, and quite likely have more info with substantial reason to believe, but cannot mention anything more at this time, except among themselves and certainly not in public.

      There has been a long line of insider-people giving testimony, and from what I gather, a good number of them quite cooperatively and fluently, providing Fitzgerald reams of information. Rove (Libby, Cheney, Bush, etc….) have no idea WHAT nor what quantity of details have been divulged, by whom nor by how many, much less how much actual evidence may or may not have accompanied any of it. That should leave even Rove treading softly! I think, though, that Rove and Luskin were really sweatin’ it recently! TO seems to have had some potent effect on them too, enough to scare them a bit, hence the swarming minions with all their irrationally disproportionate feigned reactions and demands in addition to whatever Marc and Jason may have themselves run into and up against. The investigation has spread over into a wide range of other areas and involvements, showing relatedness to Abramof and his doings, AIPAC, the run-up to war and any number of problematic directions.

      I believe the impetus and drive for outing Valerie Wilson came from Cheney and Libby, not Rove, therefore it would be quite appropriate that Rove would not be indicted for THAT particularly, which would fit the statement made by Luskin. Surely Rove is not out of the woods. It is very possible that he was persuaded that other information from a number of other (insider) sources was going to trip him up if he did not “get real” with Fitz, but without Rove knowing WHICH or WHAT info he had given that may or may not have been known bo be false. He would have to “tell all” then. perhaps at least some of this would be damaging enough to Cheney……….

      Just tread carefully out there Marc and Jason, Rove is a nasty piece of business and could be quite dangerous to more essential things than just your reputations. I believe “stuff” WILL be “floating up”, lotsa stuff, that Rove, so controlling and used to being IN control has lost control of the program and that it will keep emerging, in cumulative and increasing bits and pieces, even serendipitously, becoming visible. The honorable will be exonerated.

      (-:G
      “Give up those treasured wounds, let go the tempting memory of the pain….” Buffe St.Marie
      by G Achin on Thu Jun 15th, 2006 at 06:13:04 AM EDT

      The truthout denizens who are living in denial seem to have three basic ideas:

      1- Karl Rove was not indicted in exchange for his testimony against Lewis Libby;
      2- Karl Rove was not indicted because there are bigger charges coming up against him; or
      3- Karl Rove was not indicted because President Bush squashed it.

      The first idea is silly; it assumes that Patrick Fitzgerald was letting a bigger fish get away to better make his case against a smaller fish. That ain’t how prosecutors work, people!

      The second is simply wishful thinking. To them, Mr Rove is just plain evil, therefore he must have done something criminal, and sooner or later (later, it would now seem) they’ll get the goods on him.

      The third assumes that the President could squash a special prosecutor’s function. If that was true, it should have and would have been done before Mr Libby was indicted!

      The denizens of truthout are in the process of proving themselves to be just as wacko as those of The Lost Kos. Markos Moulitsas Zùniga has, as I wrote about previously, trying to prove himself to be a serious liberal power broker, through his “netroots,” even though he shows up for imporant meetings with serious presidential candidates dressed like a street punk.

      If they have that weak a grasp on reality, I suspect they might not be quite the force they think they will be this November.

    5. Rovin says:

      It’s just amazing how, (when you engage in serious conversation) these people eventually git around to the heart of their passion, which is how much they hate our president. No logic or reasoning. Just pure unaldulterated hatred. Now I must admit that the eight years of Slick Willy may have been the worst I had to put up with in my adult life, (Carter a close second), but I still had a respect for the office, and they were my Presidents. Todays nutcases on the left have no respect for either and that is why they continue to dissolve as a “party of no return”. NO PLAN, NO AGENDA, NO BACKBONE,……just f**k Bush. Shameful.

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