Answer: Mister Vice President

Question: What do you call someone who lies about rape for political gain?

Alternate Question: What do you call someone who plagiarizes another man’s words for political gain?

Alternate Question: What do you call someone who plagiarizes another’s work while in Law School? (note the fact of his poor grades in Law School and College on top of his plagiarism)

You could also call Joe Biden an unintelligent, smarmy sleazeball who has constantly been caught in lies, but we already knew that.

UPDATE
The Washington Post fact-checker gave Slow Joe Biden the worst rating of “four Pinocchios” for his rape lies. Ed Morrissey has the linkage and the tale of the tape.

The question of whether Joe Biden has his facts straight is almost always an easy content generator for writers, and in most cases an entertaining mission. However, no one thinks that Biden’s claim that opponents to Barack Obama’s jobs bill want more rapes and murders is the least bit charming or entertaining; despicable would be a better term. Glenn Kessler at the Washington Post has another word for it … absurd. Not only did Biden and his office get their facts wrong — rapes have not “tripled” in Flint, but actually decreased in the period Biden cited — no one has ever made a causal link between police staffing and crime rates[.]

The Veep “should know better than to spout off half-baked facts in service of a dubious argument”? Hey, that’s Joe Biden’s entire life. Remember “Recovery Summer”? Does anyone recall Biden telling CBS News how President Franklin Delano Roosevelt went on television after the 1929 crash to reassure America, even though FDR was two years away from winning his first presidential election and the only people watching TV in 1929 were those experimenting with the technology? The only time I can recall Biden getting anything right was when he gave speeches during his presidential bid in 1987 about the hard life of his family — and the only reason he got it right was because he was talking about Neil Kinnock’s family in speeches Biden plagiarized from the British politician.

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74 Comments

  1. Without a doubt, Joe Biden exhibited some serious character issues twenty plus years ago; however,

    “Twenty-one years on, how much should Biden’s past behavior matter? In and of itself, the plagiarism episode shouldn’t automatically disqualify Biden from regaining favor and credibility, especially if in the intervening two decades he’s not done more of the same, as seems to be the case. “

    Therefore, where is the evidence that he did not learn his lesson? Hitchcock supplies none here in his ad hominem attack on Biden. Yes Hitchcock, who exhibits his multitudinous character flaws on here and on his blog on a daily basis, for all to see. Need I show examples? Right here is one!

    It certainly is logical to suggest, as Biden has, that to reduce the number of police might, just might lead to an increase in crime. Not only that, but Biden cited an actual example, the case of Flint, MI, which not even the author of Hitchcock’s cite was able to refute.

    So here goes Hitchcock again, running off at the mouth in an attempt to demonize Biden, in order to advance his partisan, propagandistic agenda.

    Note that wingnut Republicans who lie, like Rick Perry and Herman Cain at the most recent debate in Las Vegas, never ever get any mention by our character assassinator in chief on this blog! He would do much better by looking into his own flawed character!!!

  2. Hube, when he has nothing meaningful to say, returns to his usual ad hominem mode:

    “Shorter Perry: “Please tell me what I just said because I forgot in mid-paragraph.””

    Stay tuned, there is more to come, I assure you!

  3. Perry wrote:

    It certainly is logical to suggest, as Biden has, that to reduce the number of police might, just might lead to an increase in crime. Not only that, but Biden cited an actual example, the case of Flint, MI, which not even the author of Hitchcock’s cite was able to refute.

    And it certainly is logical to suggest that police officers are state and local employees, not federal ones, and it is, and should be, the responsibility of state and local governments to pay for them.

  4. Hube, when he has nothing meaningful to say

    At least when I “have nothing to say” I keep it very short. You, OTOH, are as long-winded as Obama with a working teleprompter … except that, while you both lie incessantly, he sounds much more intelligent and cogent.

  5. “And it certainly is logical to suggest that police officers are state and local employees, not federal ones, and it is, and should be, the responsibility of state and local governments to pay for them.”

    And by that statement you assume that the local authorities can afford to pay for them. My understanding is that this funding would be to rehire those who had been laid off due to the lack of funds.

  6. Let’s see, Joe Biden is currently running around the country saying that rapes in Flint have jumped very noticeably, 150 percent, then double, then more than double. But even the FBI files state that rapes in Flint have dropped by a noticeable percent. That’s called Joe Biden lying today for political gain.

    And the idea that Slow Joe Biden “learned his lesson” when he got caught plagiarizing in Law School (!) is utterly ridiculous given that he got caught plagiarizing multiple people’s words in 1987/1988 in his attempt to become President. Slow Joe Biden obviously did not learn his lesson after Law School. Slow Joe Biden obviously did not learn his lesson after getting busted falsely claiming other people’s words for his own while running for President in the 1988 cycle. Otherwise, he wouldn’t be telling such a whopping lie — which is so easily researchable — today for political gain.

    And Perry has absolutely no understanding of what the word “demonizing” means since he continues to use it as an accurate synonym for “telling the truth about a person or organization”.

  7. Perry wrote:

    And by that statement you assume that the local authorities can afford to pay for them. My understanding is that this funding would be to rehire those who had been laid off due to the lack of funds.

    If the states and localities cannot pay for more policemen, then they need to either adjust their spending priorities, and cut something else to pay for more policemen, or raise taxes to pay for them.

    Instead, what they do is pass on to the federal government what are state and local responsibilities. Something like 43 states have constitutional balanced budget requirements, but hey all get around those by pushing their excess spending onto the federal budget, through grants and the like, essentially passing state deficits onto Uncle Sam, and they do it because the federal government lets them do it. That’s one big reason deficits are so out-of-control.

    The feds love it, because it lets the congressmen brag that they brought home the bacon, and the special interest groups love it, because they have to lobby only Congress rather than fifty state legislatures, and the state legislators love it, because they get to brag to their constituents that they kept taxes lower, and governors love it, because they get to brag that they balanced the budget, but it actively harms the public. We have the interesting situation in which we have federal strings attached, federal inspectors looking over everybody’s shoulder, and a larger federal bureaucracy to manage all of these grants to the states, yet we have no accountability for anything, because the state and local officials, who are better known to their constituents and (theoretically) more responsible to the voters just pass the blame on to unnamed and unknown federal bureaucrats.

    Rick Perry said, “I promise to make Washington inconsequential in your lives,” and that’s exactly the way it should be and needs to be. The vast majority of our interactions with government should come at the state and local level, where government services ought to be provided and paid for, and where the politicians can be known and responsive to the public. Instead, we’ve created this monstrosity where no one is responsible for anything.

  8. Even the Washington Post’s fact checker called Joe Biden’s claims absurd and gave Slow Joe Biden four Pinocchios for his rape lies. Them’s the facts, whether the hyper-partisan Left-Wing propaganda artist from Delaware ever faces up to it or not.

  9. In lower, slower Delaware — meaning: every part of Delaware south of Naamans Road — Senator Joe Biden didn’t have to worry about anyone actually checking up on his “facts.” ‘Twasn’t till he thought of himself as presidentibili and exposed himself to being checked on by the national media that he started to get caught on things. His presidential hopes quickly went a’glimmering, and, once again, it was just the News Journal checking up on him. Hah!

    Well, for some odd reason, Senator Barack Obama, a clever enough politician even if he did turn out to be a stumblebum President, picked Senator Biden to be his running mate, and shezamm! old Joe Biden once again comes under the scrutiny of the national media. He never really changed, because he just couldn’t, and the stuff that the News Journal kind of ignored telling the folks in the First State couldn’t be kept under wraps any more; perhaps he can blame it all on Al Gore for inventing that internet thingy.

  10. Perry adds to the laugh parade:
    So here goes Hitchcock again, running off at the mouth in an attempt to demonize Biden, in order to advance his partisan, propagandistic agenda.

    No one needs to demonize VP Bite Me, he’s doing a damn good job all by himself. (IMO)

  11. Dana Pico says:
    21 October 2011 at 16:42 (Edit)

    In lower, slower Delaware — meaning: every part of Delaware south of Naamans Road

    Last time I exited onto Naamans Rd, I went to the Allied Chemical Plant. So L.S. DE is 98% of the first state. Just fall too far to the North, you’re in PA.

  12. Last time I exited onto Naamans Rd, I went to the Allied Chemical Plant. So L.S. DE is 98% of the first state. Just fall too far to the North, you’re in PA.

    That’d actually make it about 99.8%. And it also means I’m in “slower DE” by about 300 feet. :-(

  13. The Washington Post gave Biden this terrible rating, eh? Shame about that liberal media always backing up Democrats. I can’t believe this liberal media!

  14. The Washington Post gave Biden this terrible rating, eh? Shame about that liberal media always backing up Democrats. I can’t believe this liberal media!

    Stopped clock.

  15. Hube wrote:

    Last time I exited onto Naamans Rd, I went to the Allied Chemical Plant. So L.S. DE is 98% of the first state. Just fall too far to the North, you’re in PA.

    That’d actually make it about 99.8%. And it also means I’m in “slower DE” by about 300 feet. :-(

    When we lived in the First State, we were on Brackenville Road in Hockessin, which would be south of Naamans Road. It was also just a few miles to Pennsylvania.

  16. When we lived in the First State, we were on Brackenville Road in Hockessin, which would be south of Naamans Road. It was also just a few miles to Pennsylvania.

    That’d be the western portion of DE out there, Dana, also surrounded by PA. Beautiful area out there, BTW.

  17. I don’t know about anyone else, but the rape stats, as noted by our Vice President, is scaring the crap out of me, being the picture of beautifulness which I am. Now June, on the other hand, would shoot (say it ain’t so) the shit out of someone trying to rape or murder me. She carries a pretty little Walther .380, ah…a ladies gun. But, she can hit her target. And as I always tell her; drop your target, then drop the gun. We can always get another Walther.

    I’m still wonderin’ why we would have to fire cops or policemen when the Dep’t of Parks has employees. Anybody? I see, it’s more important to manage see-saws than crime. That’s the left for ya!

    [retrieved - pH]

  18. “That’d be the western portion of DE out there, Dana, also surrounded by PA. Beautiful area out there, BTW.”

    Indeed, we can agree on that Hube. I intentionally take the back roads through that area on the way to visit daughter and family in West Chester, PA. There are actually hills and trees up that way! In fact, several years ago I hit a deer going south on 52 on the way back home around noontime on a sunny summer day, a time when the deer are not usually out.

  19. From Hitchcock’s Morrissey cite:

    “University of Chicago economist Steven D. Levitt, who examined ten possible factors for why crime fell in the 1990s, made a noteworthy effort in 2004 to assess the importance of additional cops. He included the increase in police as one factor that could explain the decline in crime.”

    Right, we all know that when there is a crime wave the first thing the residents want is increased police protection, so Hitchcock, give Joe Biden a break!!! Moreover, you are the last one who is entitled to say anything about lying, based on your performance on here!

  20. so Hitchcock, give Joe Biden a break!!!

    You only want to give him a break b/c you recognize that he’s about the only one who surpasses you in saying stupid stuff.

  21. Hey Perry, when are you going to apologize to me for falsely accusing me of lying with regard to Roseanne Barr when I provided the video and someone else provided the transcript that proved I didn’t lie about what Roseanne Barr said?

    Hey Perry, when are you going to admit that the big three Broadcast Networks have far more viewers than the Cable FOX News Network since Hube provided you that data and the source for it?

    I know. You, just like your New Zealand Socialist fellow traveler, only have to falsely accuse others of lying while you, just like your New Zealand Socialist fellow traveler, expect to be able to lie with impunity.

  22. “Hey Perry, when are you going to apologize to me for falsely accusing me of lying with regard to Roseanne Barr when I provided the video and someone else provided the transcript that proved I didn’t lie about what Roseanne Barr said?

    Hey Perry, when are you going to admit that the big three Broadcast Networks have far more viewers than the Cable FOX News Network since Hube provided you that data and the source for it?

    I know. You, just like your New Zealand Socialist fellow traveler, only have to falsely accuse others of lying while you, just like your New Zealand Socialist fellow traveler, expect to be able to lie with impunity.”

    Hitchcock, I have already shown that Hube’s contention was wrong, several times, so do try to keep current.

    Regarding Roseanne Barr, I really could care less about anything she did/does/said/says!

    Next time you think someone lied, use the mirror!

  23. Regarding Roseanne Barr, I really could care less about anything she did/does/said/says!

    That’s cute, given how you demanded I was lying and demanded proof. Now that you’re getting your face shoved in it, you’re playing your adolescent passive-aggressive game. All so you don’t have to apologize for another of your false accusations.

    I have already shown that Hube’s contention was wrong, several times, so do try to keep current.

    Since Hube provided the numbers for viewers, and you have provided nothing but bluster, you have lied yet again. But for you, you believe you only have to make allegations — it’s the seriousness of the charge that matters — but for the rest of us, we are supposed to do your work for you else you falsely accuse us of lying.

    Since there has not been a single documented, verified case of my lying, your constant claims otherwise are lies on your part. But do go ahead and be an adolescent passive-aggressive hyper-partisan radical Leftist. It’s really all you know how to do.

  24. Hitchcock, I have already shown that Hube’s contention was wrong, several times, so do try to keep current.

    Given that Perry’s memory has been shown to be more than quite deficient (still uses “Wheeler” for Whistler, for example), AND given his admission that he “suffers” from dyslexia, this statement then becomes 100% bullshit.

    And it’s a reason why his demands for citations are also bullshit, b/c he ignores them when you provide them.

  25. “All so you don’t have to apologize for another of your false accusations.

    Hitchcock, citation please on the false accusation!

    “Since Hube provided the numbers for viewers, and you have provided nothing but bluster, you have lied yet again.”

    “Since there has not been a single documented, verified case of my lying, your constant claims otherwise are lies on your part.”

    Hitchcock, citation please for an example of your not lying!

    Hitchcock, you are long on words and accusations, but short on documentations of same!!!

    Hitchcock, citation please on the numbers of viewers, which includes only network news and not “touches” on all network programming!

  26. Perry wrote:

    Hey Perry, when are you going to admit that the big three Broadcast Networks have far more viewers than the Cable FOX News Network since Hube provided you that data and the source for it?

    Hitchcock, I have already shown that Hube’s contention was wrong, several times, so do try to keep current.

    The numbers are actually harder to find than you’d think, but from this source, in March of 2011, Fox News Channel was first, at 1,123,000 total viewers per day, with CNN second (547,000) and MSNBC third (454,000), while the CBS Evening News, the lowest rated of the three network news broadcasts, with its lowest-rated first quarter among total viewers and 25-54-year-olds since at least 1992, had 6.43 million total viewers.

    Translation: the lowest rated of the three broadcast networks had almost six times as many viewers as the top rated cable news network.

    I do not recall Hube’s citation of the data, but now I’ve provided it as well.

    Can we now consider this point closed?

  27. Can we now consider this point closed?

    As soon as Perry admits what we’ve been saying, and that is that the three major Broadcast Networks have much larger viewership totals than the Cable FOX News Network. Because Perry is continuing to spread the falsehood that FOX News is larger than the three Broadcast Networks.

    Hitchcock, citation please for an example of your not lying!

    Perry going waaaaay over the top on his absolute stupidity and hyper-partisan radical Left-Wing buffoonery. Perry, you want a citation for an example of my not lying? Try here or here or here for three places where nothing I say is a lie.

  28. “Given that Perry’s memory has been shown to be more than quite deficient (still uses “Wheeler” for Whistler, for example), ….”

    You keep saying this, Hube, and it is another one of your lies, intended to demean me, a huge character flaw of yours.

    I say a lie, because for the hell of it I did a search, and the only time I made that mistake was here! You have a real nasty streak, Hube!

  29. “Can we now consider this point closed?”

    Yes, of course Dana, because your cite is definitive and on-point, for the first time on here.

  30. for the first time on here.

    You just had to add that lie on the end, didn’t you Perry? After Hube already proved it and you ignored it. It’s cute how you have to lie so much and put in digs constantly in your passive-aggressive grade school games, Perry.

  31. “Perry going waaaaay over the top on his absolute stupidity and hyper-partisan radical Left-Wing buffoonery. Perry, you want a citation for an example of my not lying? Try here or here or here for three places where nothing I say is a lie.”

    Can’t say that I agree with you, Hitchcock.

    Your biggest lie is your claim to be a Christian, when your behavior on here is anything but Christ-like in demeanor or in attitude. I mean, that is just a plain fact. If you were sincere about your Christianity, you would bear witness to the teachings of Christ. I simply don’t see that in you. In other words, I am saying that you deceive yourself, meaning you are not being honest about yourself, meaning that you are living a lie in that regard.

    Here is another example, you wrote on your blog:

    “Aphrael (who is blame fool enough to not capitalize his moniker) is much the same, but in a different vein. Both aphrael and Jeff are dead wrong on just about everything. But both aphrael and Jeff take the time to actually understand the Conservative position — while vehemently disagreeing with it — and debate honestly with that understanding they have acquired. That is why I have much respect for both aphrael and Jeff when it comes down to debating. That is also why I have absolutely zero tolerance or respect for Perry, mike g, Jeromy, that csbc or whatever it is clown, or the absolute worst of them: the downright liar and most blog-destroying of radical Leftist trolls: the New Zealand Socialist book putter backer.”

    Who are you to say that Jeff and aphrael are “dead wrong on just about everything”. An honorable person would say, instead, that “I do not agree with J and A on just about everything”. That is an important distinction which you do not seem to understand. And then, you go on to demonize all the rest of us with whom you have many disagreements on politics et al. What kind of an attitude is this, Hitchcock? Is there honor there? Is this Christ-like? I don’t think so!

  32. No, Hitchcock, Hube did not prove it, as he has never given a cite. Hube says you proved it, yet your cite given here proves no such thing. Check it out yourself.

    So Hube lied, and you erred. That’s where we were on this issue until Dana finally took it upon himself to clear it up, which of course I accepted. So yes, I was wrong, so were you and Hube, perish the thought!

  33. No, Hitchcock, Hube did not prove it, as he has never given a cite. Hube says you proved it, yet your cite given here proves no such thing. Check it out yourself.

    So Hube lied, and you erred. That’s where we were on this issue until Dana finally took it upon himself to clear it up, which of course I accepted. So yes, I was wrong, so were you and Hube, perish the thought!

    Perry, you old fool, you went to the exact thread where Hube gave a cite and the numbers in order to claim Hube never gave a cite or any numbers. And here is where he did it in that very same thread.

    According to MediaBistro.com, on Sept 20 the NBC Nightly News had 8.2 million viewers, and CBS and ABC each had 7.5 million viewers (for a total of 23.2 million). On the cable side the largest audience was for The O’Reilly Factor with 2 million (or 3.1 million if you include his rebroadcast) viewers. So the network audiences are still much larger than any particular cable show, but their audiences are going down steadily (as seen in the graph) due to the internet and cable news.

    So no, Hube and I were not wrong when we said Hube provided the cite and the numbers. By the way, that’s the exact same thread where you falsely accused me of lying about Roseanne Barr and demanded a citation. The very thread where I provided the video proof that she said what she said about re-education camps and the guillotine for the uber-wealthy who refused to give up their uber-wealth. The very same thread where Hoagie provided the pertinent part of the transcript. All of which you ignored as you continued commenting in the thread.

    Your biggest lie is your claim to be a Christian, when your behavior on here is anything but Christ-like in demeanor or in attitude. I mean, that is just a plain fact.

    Given that you have proven time and again you have absolutely no understanding of Christianity and absolutely no idea how to become a Christian, you cannot make that assertion with any credibility whatsoever. Beyond that, you have not provided any supporting evidence for your false accusation. Especially in light of your belief in a Socialist version of Jesus. Thus your assertion is invalid on its face.

    Who are you to say that Jeff and aphrael are “dead wrong on just about everything”. An honorable person would say, instead, that “I do not agree with J and A on just about everything”.

    Jeff and aphrael are dead wrong about just about everything, but they are worthy of respect. You, on the other hand, are dead wrong on just about everything and worthy of disdain. And you have no understanding of Honor as you try to force your passive-aggressivity onto others.

  34. Hate to butt in however, I did read John Hitchcock’s blog about Jeff and Aphrael and I thought it to be fair and balanced. Actually, seemed to me Hitch went out of his way to praise them a worthy advisaries.

    You guys gotta cut me a break, I lost my glasses (I think at the Capitol Grill at the K of P Mall) and I don’t have an appointment till Tuesday to get new ones. So as bad as my spelling usually is, I really can’t see crap now. Sorry. There was an old fart next to me at the bar and I think he may have picked them up by accident. Yes, he was older than I.

  35. “So no, Hube and I were not wrong when we said Hube provided the cite and the numbers.”

    On this one, Hitchcock, you are correct, so I stand corrected.

    “Given that you have proven time and again you have absolutely no understanding of Christianity and absolutely no idea how to become a Christian, you cannot make that assertion with any credibility whatsoever.”

    However, on this one you are “dead” wrong, and ignorant to boot. You can profess your Christianity and your knowledge of the Bible, but your behavior on here reveals clearly your hypocrisy. Who, observing you, would ever want to even consider Christianity? If you indeed are one, and who am I to really know, your witness for Christ is absolutely appalling!!!

    “Jeff and aphrael are dead wrong about just about everything, but they are worthy of respect.”

    I too respect both Jeff and aphrael, but to call them “dead wrong”, as if you know absolutely the difference between right and wrong for everyone else, is “dead” wrong, you arrogant a**hole!

  36. as if you know absolutely the difference between right and wrong for everyone else, is “dead” wrong, you arrogant a**hole!

    As if there’s one iota of difference between YOU saying precisely the same thing to us, Perry. To take Hitch completely literally on that statement further proves how mentally ill you’ve become.

    You’re sick, Perry. Get help.

  37. “As if there’s one iota of difference between YOU saying precisely the same thing to us, Perry. To take Hitch completely literally on that statement further proves how mentally ill you’ve become.

    You’re sick, Perry. Get help.”

    Coming from you, Hube, this remark is not only wrong, it is meaningless, because you have no control yourself over your obsessive behavior dysfunction. You troll here obsessively and hop on with personal attacks at every opportunity. You badly need to follow your own advice!!! Moreover, on Hitchcock’s repeated arrogant absolutism, I think the descriptor I chose fits quite well. And I note in passing, I have never once seen you on here criticizing Hitchcock for his outrageous personal outbursts. Why is that, Hube?

  38. And I note in passing, I have never once seen you on here criticizing Hitchcock for his outrageous personal outbursts. Why is that, Hube?

    Considering that you can’t even recall what you yourself post five minutes prior, of COURSE you’ve never seen me criticize Hitch. You wouldn’t remember it if I did.

    However, why is it that I’ve never once seen you criticize Phoeny as vigorously as you go after Hitch, Dana, me or whoever? Answer: you’re a hypocrite. As if that’s a surprise anymore.

    You’re sick, Perry. Get help.

  39. “Considering that you can’t even recall what you yourself post five minutes prior, of COURSE you’ve never seen me criticize Hitch. You wouldn’t remember it if I did.”

    Oh BS, Hube!!! Note that here we have Hube at it again, continuing on against his victim, which is the very dysfunction noted ofttimes, similar to his behavior over against DL. Thus, the pattern of behavior continues, out of control.

    “However, why is it that I’ve never once seen you criticize Phoeny as vigorously as you go after Hitch, Dana, me or whoever? Answer: you’re a hypocrite. As if that’s a surprise anymore.”

    The point is, I have gone after PiaToR on several occasions. And at Dana’s request, PiaToR toed the line, without fail. However, did Hube and Hitchcock toe the line? Of course not, showing absolutely no respect for Dana’s request. And just as bad, Dana never followed up. I wonder why?

    On being hypocrites, Hube, we both are, but perfect Hube, you steadfastly refuse to own up to it, another sign of social dysfunction and cowardliness! I’d say you need the help, Hube, badly.

  40. Oh BS, Hube!!!

    Uh huh. Case in point. Your memory is as laughable as your ability to evacuate your bladder, Old Man. No BS here — check cold, hard, uncomfortable facts.

    The point is, I have gone after PiaToR on several occasions.

    You’re a liar.

    And once again Fossil — I have asked you time and time again not to bring up the subject that WAS at the end of your last comment. You continue to do so. Consider this your last warning. If you persist, I will go no holds barred posting YOUR personal information in this forum. Thankfully, I also have editing ability and deleted the information from your comment.

  41. Every Conservative on this blog has called you out for your dishonesty and hypocrisy, Perry. There’s a reason why Dana himself coined the phrase “The Two Ps in a Pod” and it ain’t good, Perry. In fact, that has to be one of the biggest slams Dana could dish out, equating you with the New Zealand Socialist book putter backer who went and got himself banned from multiple sites for his trollery.

    Delaware Libertarian wrote an article calling you out for your dishonesty, Perry.

    Liberals have evidently called you out for your dishonesty and hypocrisy, Perry.

    It ain’t everybody else, Perry. IT’S YOU!!! You are what the problem is, Perry, not Delaware Libertarian, not this blog, not the Liberals who called you out. Everyone else can’t be wrong. YOU are wrong and need to correct YOUR OWN complete disregard for integrity and honor.

  42. “Every Conservative on this blog has called you out for your dishonesty and hypocrisy, Perry.”

    Citations please, Hitchcock!

    “Delaware Libertarian wrote an article calling you out for your dishonesty, Perry.”

    Citation please!

    “Liberals have evidently called you out for your dishonesty and hypocrisy, Perry.”

    Citations please!

    Hitchcock, you are full of crap!!! For you to even speak of “integrity and honor” is a good joke, because you have no comprehension of same, as evidenced by this post, among a multitude of others on this blog. Thus, you are a hypocrite and a phoney, and a pretty obnoxious individual as well, in my view.

  43. Citations please, Hitchcock!

    Been there, done that.

    Citation please, Hitchcock!

    Been there, done that.

    Citation please, Hitchcock!

    Been there, done that.

    Hitchcock, you are full of crap!!!

    No sir, YOU are. Deal with it.

  44. Perry, your constant demands for citations (such as the demand for the citation regarding Roseanne Barr’s suggestion of re-education camps and guillotines for the very wealthy or your demand for ciatations proving the three Broadcast networks far outpaced FOX News) are complete lies. You never have any intention of admitting the fact Hube and I keep proving we haven’t lied. Just as you never have any intention of any good faith debate. But you want a link you won’t look at anyway? A link to information that was linked to numerous times on this blog, that you ignored all those other times as well? A link to people calling you out for your abject dishonesty? A link providing absolute proof that you have spread the same lies in 2009 that you spread today, and you were called out for them then? Well, here it is. But just like all those other times you demanded citations and falsely accused people of lying, you’ll ignore the facts about your own history and continue on demanding citations you never intend to examine in your continued false allegations of others lying.

    Because that’s who you are.

  45. Well, Hitchcock, like I said before, you have no right to out me, but you have, repeatedly, which says everything about the depravity of your attitude, your ethics, and your morals. Of course, there are many other examples as well.

    I also find it amusing how DNW and aotc and the roper rationalize their reason for leaving CSPT. Basically, they wish to dwell with those of like mind, which is actually an admission of intellectual weakness, that they cannot stand up to a debate with those with whom they disagree.

    And then there is your reaction when someone posts on your thread something you don’t like — you delete the post. Impressive!

    Finally, you are beginning to see the downfall of the bankrupt ideology which you represent, considering first the downfall of your favorite candidate, Sarah Palin, and noting now the circus going on with the candidates competing for the nomination. Indeed, Jon Huntsman is the only sane one of the bunch, and you can see where he is in the current standings. On a daily basis, your Republican right wing extremists are handing the 2012 election to Obama, thank god!

    Bad news for you wingnuts: The economy is improving with GDP growing now at 2.5%, the ninth straight quarter having a positive growth, and the stock market is surging, all this in spite of the refusal of the anti-American Republicans to do one thing to help the economy grow. Now if you would just work with us to create jobs, that would be a step in the right direction. But you won’t, because it is still party and power over and above what our country really needs.

  46. Bad news for you wingnuts: The economy is improving with GDP growing now at 2.5%, the ninth straight quarter having a positive growth

    Sorry, Perry, but thst’s not “improvement”. That’s a 2.5% annualised growth – you’d essentially need 3% growth just to “stay in place” with tje job market, and a sustained period of growth beyond that to clear the massive swell of unemployment before it becomes toxic (i.e. people give p hope and turn to recreationsl pillagin and looting rather than job-seeking for jobs that ain’t there).

    With the stimulus shutting down, this is the best that you can hope for – stagnation and slow poisoning.

  47. Well, Hitchcock, like I said before, you have no right to out me

    If Hitch used Perryian rationales for using your name, he’d say “I didn’t do it willingly” and/or “There was no ill intent.” Of course, considering that Perry himself has used his full name here, on his blog, and elsewhere numerous times, it leads one to wonder just what the heck your problem is. Since you believe you can define when and how someone can use what you yourself have already used, then maybe we ought to make some definitions of our own.

  48. I don’t believe I have ever used my full name on here, Hube.

    It speaks poorly of Hitchcock that he chooses to out me on this blog, since it goes against my obvious personal choice. But Hitchcock is who he is, therefore I am not surprised at his breach!

  49. I don’t believe I have ever used my full name on here, Hube.

    The fact that you say “I don’t believe” means there’s a high likelihood that you did. But you used it on your own blog and Colossus, at the very least. If you had such a beef with him, why not contact him like I contacted you — via e-mail? Instead of impugning his motives?

  50. Notice how Perry challenged me to provide a citation proving Delaware Libertarian wrote an article calling Perry out for his dishonesty, and upon being given such an article, Perry chooses rather than to admit Delaware Libertarian wrote an article calling Perry out for his dishonesty — as I said — to divert attention away from that absolute fact. And upon seeing Conservatives and Libertarians leaving CSPT due in part to Perry’s dishonesty, hypocrisy, and absolute bad-faith activity, Perry goes on and rationalizes that away as having nothing to do with him.

    Perry cannot stand to allow the truth to stand. Perry has to divert attention away from the truth by introducing non-germane material or by spreading propaganda and lies. The absolute fact that Delaware Libertarian called Perry out for the same lies he uses today, and called him out in early 2009, cannot be denied (unless the denier is — and Perry is — a liar). The fact so many Conservatives and Libertarians have called Perry out for his dishonesty and hypocrisy cannot be denied (unless the denier is — and Perry is — a liar). The fact Hube has pointed out on multiple occasions that even Liberals have called Perry out for his dishonest games cannot be disputed, so Perry tries to redirect attention away from that inconvenient truth. Because Perry cannot stand to face up to the truth: Conservatives, Libertarians, Liberals have called Perry out for the exact same dishonest, hypocritical, passive-aggressive game he plays every day and has played for at least 3 years.

    That is the truth that cannot be denied (unless the denier is — and Perry is — a liar).

  51. Notice how Perry challenged me to provide a citation proving Delaware Libertarian wrote an article calling Perry out for his dishonesty, and upon being given such an article, Perry chooses rather than to admit Delaware Libertarian wrote an article calling Perry out for his dishonesty — as I said — to divert attention away from that absolute fact.

    It’s precisely like how I e-mailed Perry TWICE asking him to refrain from mentioning a certain relative, and upon providing proof of it via copied e-mails, he attempts to “rationalize” it by claiming he has “no ill motives.” But, of course, that’s precisely the position he took with you using his full name. He didn’t e-mail you politely requesting you refrain from using it — he immediately ripped you claiming only HE has the right to use his full name … even though he’s used it many times in forums himself.

    FACT: Steve Newton, libertarian, called out Perry for his nonsense.
    FACT: Mike Matthews, liberal, called out Perry for his nonsense. (And it doesn’t matter if he has a foul mouth or not; you attempted you usual shenanigans at his old blog and got called out for it.)
    FACT: Every conservative here has called Perry out for his nonsense.

    But it’s everyone else who’s at fault. Not Perry.
    But it’s everyone else who “needs help.” Not Perry.
    But it’s everyone else who’s hypocritical, mean-spirited and hateful. Not Perry.

  52. I’ve already responded to your BS, Hube, but you just simply cannot let it go, for personal reasons already stated many times on here.

    Rather than participate on a blog where they pat each other’s backs, like Hitchcock and his TBH blog, I prefer pushing back on you Conservatives on ideas and policies to which I object. I understand that you get irritated. Tough! So should it be a surprise that at times my opinion is labeled “nonsense” here? Of course not. So Hube, go and participate on TBH, then you will become much happier over there among your own crony extremists, I guarantee you that!

  53. Once again, Perry has to attempt to evade the truth by completely ignoring the truth and making up some other false story about something completely different. Because Perry cannot face up to the truth that every Conservative on this blog, Delaware Libertarian, and Liberals have called Perry out for his dishonesty and hypocrisy and other games Perry plays.

    Because the truth is Perry has been caught and called out by Conservatives, Libertarians, and Liberals. The truth is Perry cannot bring himself to admit he has been called out by members of all sides of the debates. The truth is Perry cannot admit that his “citation please” garbage is just meant as a detraction since he has no intent on examining the citations and confessing the fact the claimants were dead-on accurate.

    The truth is Perry is incapable of debating in good faith, as shown multiple times in this thread.

  54. Who said this?

    My only gripe is that the 2LT’s name should not have been redacted.

    I’ll give you three guesses and the first two don’t count.

    The story about a Second Lieutenant who was joking with my daughter in what could be considered a wholly inappropriate manner and could cost the Second Lieutenant that person’s career in the Army if any wrong person caught wind of the event. And the “only gripe” Perry (who demands his last name be redacted from a single web site) had was “that the 2LT’s name should not have been redacted” doesn’t find that in the least bit hypocritical or dishonest. Perry (who demands his last name be redacted from a single web site while he himself put it up on multiple web sites) doesn’t risk having his career ended if someone finds out who he is, but if someone found out who that 2LT was, that career could be terminated. And the 2LT doesn’t have a choice in whether the name goes with the rank in the story.

    This would be the same Perry (who doesn’t want his last name known on this blog for purposes of anonymity, while he has broadcast his last name on other blogs) who has also, in the past, blasted Conservatives who use noms de cyber for “hiding their identities” and being anonymous. And again, Perry wouldn’t find that dishonest or hypocritical in any way. Because Perry has no understanding of honor or integrity.

  55. “This would be the same Perry (who doesn’t want his last name known on this blog for purposes of anonymity, while he has broadcast his last name on other blogs) ….”

    That’s exactly right, Hitchcock, which has been my choice on this blog. An honorable person would honor my choice!

  56. “Once again, Perry has to attempt to evade the truth by completely ignoring the truth and making up some other false story about something completely different. “

    More BS now from Hitchcock, as expected! The H & H ensemble are attacking and vilifying in tandem again, as usual.

  57. Perry says:
    28 October 2011 at 19:48 (Edit)

    “This would be the same Perry (who doesn’t want his last name known on this blog for purposes of anonymity, while he has broadcast his last name on other blogs) ….”

    That’s exactly right, Hitchcock, which has been my choice on this blog. An honorable person would honor my choice!

    It’s interesting, Perry, that you would cut off the quote like that, given the fact the full quote shows your abject hypocrisy and your absolute double standards.

    Of course, the full quote — including the part Perry worked so hard to ignore — is as follows:

    This would be the same Perry (who doesn’t want his last name known on this blog for purposes of anonymity, while he has broadcast his last name on other blogs) who has also, in the past, blasted Conservatives who use noms de cyber for “hiding their identities” and being anonymous.

    Now, does anyone wonder why Perry would delete that bolded part? Anyone at all?

  58. And of course, Perry’s dishonest partial quoting scheme was derived out of a comment I made showing where Perry cried about how an Army Officer’s name was redacted from a story about an Army Officer telling a sexist joke in private to an enlisted Army soldier, where the Army Officer’s career could be destroyed if the Army Officer’s name were to be released.

  59. “Now, does anyone wonder why Perry would delete that bolded part? Anyone at all?”

    Now Hitchcock is attempting to shift my point from his dishonor for outing me when my choice of names on this blog was/is “Perry” to some other issue. You should not have outed me, Hitchcock, but you did, for which you now must confess and beg for forgiveness, you know, you must do what Christians are expected to do. Will you do that, Hitchcock?

  60. No, Perry. You attempted to redirect from the point at hand and failed. Because the point at hand is your outright and utter hypocrisy and dishonesty as referenced above. That is the point that you, Perry, cannot face and always have to attempt a diversion for.

    But nice try in pointing out where I showed how you dishonestly cut my statement short when you quoted me so that you could try to hide your utter dishonesty and blatant hypocrisy. Didn’t work, did it?

  61. “But nice try in pointing out where I showed how you dishonestly cut my statement short when you quoted me so that you could try to hide your utter dishonesty and blatant hypocrisy. Didn’t work, did it?”

    I cut your statement short because you were attempting to change the subject from your dishonorable behavior to an issue involving people who post as “anon”. Please explain to me how that is “dishonest”, Hitchcock?

    I note that you have not yet stepped up as a Christian would do with your confession and apology for outing me, Hitchcock.

    Whether you do the above or not, which is on you, isn’t it time we get back to debating the issues instead of continuing with these personal attacks and vilifications? Or are personal attacks all you care to occupy yourself with? If so, that’s mighty weak!

  62. Nothing to apologize for, Perry, since you have yourself used your last name on blogs.
    Nothing to apologize for, Perry, since your own hypocritical blog has your last name.

    And the point is — which you keep trying to hide from — that Conservatives, Libertarians, Liberals have all called you out for your utter hypocrisy and dishonesty in your absolute disdain for honest debate. That is a fact that you cannot hide from, no matter how hard you try. And it is not vilification to point out the fact that Conservatives, Libertarians, Liberals have all called you out for your wholly dishonest and wholly hypocritical games you have been playing for at least three years, if not longer. It’s pointing out a certified fact.

  63. “Nothing to apologize for, Perry, since you have yourself used your last name on blogs.
    Nothing to apologize for, Perry, since your own hypocritical blog has your last name.

    And the point is — which you keep trying to hide from — that Conservatives, Libertarians, Liberals have all called you out for your utter hypocrisy and dishonesty in your absolute disdain for honest debate. That is a fact that you cannot hide from, no matter how hard you try. And it is not vilification to point out the fact that Conservatives, Libertarians, Liberals have all called you out for your wholly dishonest and wholly hypocritical games you have been playing for at least three years, if not longer. It’s pointing out a certified fact.”

    OK John, discussion is over as far as I’m concerned. As is typical, you have mischaracterized my interactions with other bloggers over time, but frankly, coming from you or Hube, I don’t care.

    I also note that you are unwilling to debate/discuss the issues, which is ostensibly why we are all participating here, except for folks like you and Hube. Again, so be it. End of story on this topic! Carry on.

  64. No, it isn’t the end of the story on the topic of you being a dishonest, deceitful, hypocritical liar who has been called out by Conservatives, Libertarians, and Liberals alike. Because you will continue doing the very dishonest and hypocritical things so many people have called you out for over the past three years. Because you cannot help but be deceitful, dishonest and hypocritical. It’s who you are. And many people know it.

  65. I’ve already responded to your BS, Hube, but you just simply cannot let it go

    You really ARE a delusional moron, aren’t you? I did let it go … and I come here yesterday morning and what do I find? YOU continuing your passive-aggressive bullshit.

    You just go on blaming everyone else for your own problems, old man. Lord knows what the f*** YOU were like in the classroom (poor kids), not to mention as a father and husband. God help all your poor relatives who’ve had to deal with your delusional bullshit over this last century.

  66. I’ve already responded to your BS, Hube, but you just simply cannot let it go

    You really ARE a delusional moron, aren’t you? I did let it go … and I come here yesterday morning and what do I find? YOU continuing your passive-aggressive bullshit.

    You just go on blaming everyone else for your own problems, old man. Lord knows what the f*** YOU were like in the classroom (poor kids), not to mention as a father and husband. God help all your poor relatives who’ve had to deal with your delusional bullshit over this last century.

    Like I said before, Hube, you simply cannot let it go. That’s on you!

  67. “No, it isn’t the end of the story on the topic of you being a dishonest, deceitful, hypocritical liar who has been called out by Conservatives, Libertarians, and Liberals alike. Because you will continue doing the very dishonest and hypocritical things so many people have called you out for over the past three years. Because you cannot help but be deceitful, dishonest and hypocritical. It’s who you are. And many people know it.”

    More Hitchcock BS. You can’t let it go either. The H&H vilification brigade marches forward, continuing to contaminate CSPT with their venom and personal vendetta. Let’s get back to participating in this blog for the purpose that Dana has for it — discussing the issues!

  68. Like I said before, Hube, you simply cannot let it go. That’s on you!

    Then why did you resurrect it yesterday, you mental midget? Is there ANYTHING for which you’ll blame the man in the mirror?

    You’re diseased, Perry. Get help.

  69. The H&H vilification brigade marches forward, continuing to contaminate CSPT with their venom and personal vendetta.

    Then leave, asshole. No one’s making you stay, except your diseased mind.

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