Nothing New, Nothing to See, Just Move Along, It’s Still Bush’s Fault

Summary of BO’s Speech Tonight: It’s all Bush’s Fault

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  1. Yorkshire, I don’t think you Repubs comprehend, or if you do comprehend you don’t admit to the mess that this economy was in when Obama took office.

    Must I remind you that GW Bush inherited a surplus?

    It took ten years to recover from Hoover’s Great Depression, and probably would have taken longer had it not been for WWII.

    And we know the solution: Stimulus. This is what FDR did in the 1933-37 time frame, and unemployment almost halved.

    True, the context is different now, re global competition, wealth redistribution in favor of the wealthy, and worse government corruption by the wealthy elite.

    Frankly, I am not certain there is a solution for us. The only two cards left to play are more stimulus and cleaning corruption out of our government with legislation to cap campaign finance, shorten campaigns, and control bribes by lobbyists.

    I’m trying to be optimistic about the future of our country, but this is mighty difficult given the dysfunctional government we now have. I am hoping that the 2012 elections produce more centrists who are by definition willing to generate legislative solutions by, yes that dirty word, by **compromising**!

  2. Perry says:
    26 July 2011 at 07:28

    Yorkshire, I don’t think you Repubs comprehend, or if you do comprehend you don’t admit to the mess that this economy was in when Obama took office.

    Yeah, I remember a Democratic Congress getting us there

    Must I remind you that GW Bush inherited a surplus?

    Sure, Progressives love to forget 9/11 which changed everything.

  3. Yorkshire, I don’t think you Repubs comprehend, or if you do comprehend you don’t admit to the mess that this economy was in when Obama took office.

    Must I remind you that GW Bush inherited a surplus?

    It took ten years to recover from Hoover’s Great Depression, and probably would have taken longer had it not been for WWII.

    And we know the solution: Stimulus. This is what FDR did in the 1933-37 time frame, and unemployment almost halved.

    Copy and paste, Copy and paste, Copy and paste, Copy and paste, Copy and paste, Copy and paste, Copy and paste … talking points, talking points, talking points, talking points, talking points, talking points, talking points, talking points …

    Gap bridging my ass, you senile fraud.

  4. Naturally, Yorkshire deflects blame from Bush even when Bush was in office.

    Of course, it’s really Carter’s fault. Blaming past presidents for things is only okay if it’s a Democrat, in which case you can go back as far as you want. Woodrow Wilson even!

    Hey, though, we elected some Republicans in 2010, how are they doing?

    Oh, yeah, I forgot, the US’ credit rating is threatened and we may be plunging into another, deeper recession, because of them.

    And which voters are they representing? Yorkshire, Dana, Hoagie, John Hitchcock, and whole crew here.

    Why?

    a. They developed an anti-tax religion and it cannot be violated.
    b. They have every intention of blaming it on Obama anyway, and they think they can turn it around in 2012 to their favor.

    The country? They’ll just have to break it to save it, and when the president has an (R) next to his name, all is well. And if he doesn’t fix the damage, just remember, it was Obama’s fault!

    Trump says it out loud:

    TRUMP: Frankly the Republicans would be crazy unless they get 100% of the deal that they want right now to make any deal…If this happens, for instance if this stuff is going on prior to an election, he can’t get reelected. He possibly can’t get elected anyway…The fact is, unless the Republicans get 100% of what they want, and that may include getting rid of Obamacare, which is a total disaster, then they should not make a deal other than a minor extension which would take you before you the election which would ensure Obama doesn’t get elected, which would be a great thing.
    BRIAN KILMEAD: If you look at the average American when they’re polled, it seems the President of the United States gets less of the blame than Republicans do, but you see Republicans with maximum leverage.
    TRUMP: Absolutely the Republicans have the leverage. I don’t care about polls. When it comes time to default, they’re not going to remember any of the Republicans’ names. They are going to remember in history books one name, and that’s Obama. They’re not going to be talking about Boehner or anybody else. [...]

    Why is it you guys aren’t traitors sabotaging the United States of America and arguably violating the Constitution in order to fulfill your political ends? Really, I do need it explained to me, because it looks to me like there’s a line that you guys crossed, and anybody who cares about the USA more than the GOP ought to recognize it.

  5. HW:
    Why is it you guys aren’t traitors sabotaging the United States of America and arguably violating the Constitution in order to fulfill your political ends? Really, I do need it explained to me, because it looks to me like there’s a line that you guys crossed, and anybody who cares about the USA more than the GOP ought to recognize it.

    With a young child in the house you shouldn’t be smoking the wacky weed.

  6. Sadly, I’m sober and this is really happening. What are you smoking? I’d like to know what drugs make “fiscal conservatives” turn into anti-tax radicals sabotaging the US economy for political gain, because I’d give the Drug War a pass for going after those ones.

  7. Henry Whistler says:
    26 July 2011 at 22:36

    Sadly, I’m sober and this is really happening. What are you smoking?

    Well, that’s good. You don’t want your little harmed by that stuff. I tried 1 cigarette when I was 14 to 16 range. Hated it. In today’s numbers, you might as well put $4 on the ground, and set a match to it. To me, I see no difference.

    But right now I’m so damn fed up with the whole bunch over there. I felt like Boner is talking out of both sides of his mouth. I think the one group that will be royally screwed is all of us. I don’t think there’s more than 10 people in that rat hole over there have a grasp of the real problem.

    I think in the end all of us will be screwed and the likes of Soros will double his money.

  8. Sadly, I’m sober and this is really happening. What are you smoking? I’d like to know what drugs make “fiscal conservatives” turn into anti-tax radicals sabotaging the US economy for political gain, because I’d give the Drug War a pass for going after those ones.

    Henry, I saw a great description of the real fiscal situation today. The US government needs to “balance its finances” in order to spend money in exactly the same way as a sports referee needs to be awarded points before he can dish them out to players. If a referee doesn’t take points away from some players, how can he award them to others?

  9. But right now I’m so damn fed up with the whole bunch over there.

    Over there? The bunch over there responsible is the Tea Party/GOP base-controlled House, Yorkshire.

    They’re doing exactly as Dana would advise. If you differ, by all means, let’s have it out.

    Who’s for default? Let’s get it down in print now, so we know exactly who owns this.

  10. Henry Whistler says:
    27 July 2011 at 00:23

    But right now I’m so damn fed up with the whole bunch over there.

    Over there? The bunch over there responsible is the Tea Party/GOP base-controlled House, Yorkshire.

    They’re doing exactly as Dana would advise. If you differ, by all means, let’s have it out.

    Who’s for default? Let’s get it down in print now, so we know exactly who owns this.

    No one is for default, but no one is for making hard choice. You tax more, one group screams and blocks, you cut, same thing. You have a large dependent class who will vote for whoever gives them more, and is loudly heard if 1 penny is cut. So look what we did in 80 years? Slowly, drip by drip more people pay less or no taxes, more people are on dole, rich people through no fault of their own, other than make a lot of money are expected to pay for this.

    The welfare class keeps screaming the divide be rich and poor gets bigger. Here’s a hint, the more government takes, The less “The Rich” can invest to employee the poor.

  11. So look what we did in 80 years? Slowly, drip by drip more people pay less or no taxes, more people are on dole, rich people through no fault of their own, other than make a lot of money are expected to pay for this.

    *sigh* This is completely at odds with the actual truth, Yorkshire. You have been sold a line of bullsh1t, and you have bought into it completely.

    As a percentage of government revenue, the rich have been paying less and less since the eighties.

  12. And before the bafflegab starts:

    i, “Tax” includes the capital gains tax, sales taxes and land taxes as well as the income tax.

    ii, “Government” includes local and state levels as well as the federal level.

    The capital gains tax, paid mainly by the very rich, the non-wage earners, has plummeted. When people point at “the federal income tax” alone, this is a sure sign that they deceptively attempting to ignore the distinction between capitalists and wage-earners, especially when they consider the top 1% (which includes many wage earners) and not the top 0.1% (which are mainly capitalists).

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