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  1. Here in Jim Thorpe, we do have some very high curbs, some with steps leading down from the sidewalk to the street. Perhaps he slipped and fell off a high curb like that in Augusta . . . ?

  2. A society becomes chaotic when some of it’s citizens take the law into their own hands and behave in an extreme manner. So yes, Yorkshire, this event “speaks for itself”, but the message is quite different depending on the reader. The Abu Ghraib mentality lives on in the USA, and right here on CSPT!

  3. A society becomes chaotic when some of it’s citizens take the law into their own hands and behave in an extreme manner. So yes, Yorkshire, this event “speak for itself”, but the message is quite different depending on the reader. The Abu Ghraib mentality lives on in the USA, and right here on CSPT!

    Oh brother. Please bring the straitjacket, somebody. Perry’s officially lost it.

  4. “Oh brother. Please bring the straitjacket, somebody. Perry’s officially lost it.”

    No, Hube, those marines “lost it”. And if you don’t see that, then you have “lost it” as well. A civilized society we are not if we condone behavior like those marines. I understand the emotion, based on the behavior of the thief, but the reaction was clearly over the top, don’t you think?

  5. but the reaction was clearly over the top, don’t you think?

    Pummeling a guy for stabbing a colleague of theirs? Over the top? Only your idiocy is over the top in this thread, Perry.

    Ye gad.

  6. Yeah, some dude uses deadly force against a member of the military and Perry gets his panties in a wad because the dude tripped and fell after using deadly force.

  7. Hitch: I take that “trip and fall” as the “official” story from the Marines. Meaning, they actually kicked the sh** out of him. Which I have absolutely no problem with.

  8. Perry says:
    29 May 2011 at 07:36
    A society becomes chaotic when some of it’s citizens take the law into their own hands and behave in an extreme manner. So yes, Yorkshire, this event “speak for itself”, but the message is quite different depending on the reader. The Abu Ghraib mentality lives on in the USA, and right here on CSPT!

    Perry sees a knife attack on a comrade as a non event calling for no action but ignore the action of the perp stabbing a fellow Marine. Were the Marines supposed to say thank-you we deserve that from the military hating part of the Public like the Perry’s of the world, or does their training automatically take over. When the perp stabbed one Marine doing charity work, he stabbed them all, and self defense took over. Like the police said, he fell off the curb. Do you not trust a Police Report?

  9. Perry:
    I understand the emotion, based on the behavior of the thief, but the reaction was clearly over the top, don’t you think?

    Now Perry is saying the police have it wrong. Don’t you trust the Police now?

  10. …anyone familiar with Terry Pratchett’s definition of suicide? “Knifing a Marine, in commission of a runner, in the middle of a group of Marines” is a pretty good example.

  11. Perry wrote:

    No, Hube, those marines “lost it”.

    Uhhh, Perry, the guy stabbed their fellow Marine; what would you have expected them to do?

    Actually, the fact that the assailant is still breathing proves that the Marines didn’t lose it.

  12. To me, it’s like a guy who burns a flag in front of a bunch of veterans, then complains when he gets beaten up.

    I mean, yeah, technically speaking, maybe they shouldn’t have done that, but then again, what was the fool thinking when lighting that flag in the first place?

  13. When faced with an individual using deadly force, it is imperative that one use overwhelming force in response. That the person who used deadly force (that is what stabbing someone in the back with a knife is: deadly force) is still alive is a testament to the restraint of the Marines in question.

    That Perry yet again sides with the violent thug, the criminal, the person acting in terroristic fashion against brave American Marines is at once typical and disgustingly sad. I would feel sorry for the depravity that encompasses Perry’s mind, but that would require my respect for the depraved man who calls himself Perry. And I have no respect for him as he has proven time immemorial that he deserves no respect from anyone with morals.

  14. Mr Hitchcock wrote:

    That Perry yet again sides with the violent thug, the criminal, the person acting in terroristic fashion against brave American Marines is at once typical and disgustingly sad.

    I’m going to defend Perry a bit on this one. His reaction was incorrect, but I don’t think that he considered the difference between trained law enforcement officers, who are told how much force they can use in such situations and at what point they have to back off, and the Marines, who were probably not trained in such, and reacted not as trained law enforcement officers, but as Marines. Had he run into a group of police officers and stabbed one of them, they would have been justified in using deadly force, would have been armed, and Tyrone Jackson would have been lying in a pool of his own blood, stone-cold graveyard dead.

    Now that this has been pointed out, perhaps he’ll appraise the situation differently.

    In Philadelphia, there were stories about the brutal rape of an 11-year-old girl, and the town was up in arms. The Philadelphia Police identified José Carrasquillo as a suspect, and when Mr Carrasquillo made the mistake of showing his face in public, two men, David Vargas and Fernando Genuall, spotted him and “detained” him with a 2 x 4; Mr Carrasquillo spent a few days in the hospital recovering from being “detained.” Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey said that no charges would be filed against the young men who “detained” Mr Carrasquillo, and they have already received their share of the offered reward. They weren’t trained law enforcement officers, either, but they sure performed a service to the city, and may well have saved another young girl from being raped.

    Mr Carrasquillo pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 30 to 66 years in prison.

  15. I assume a Marine can be a SEAL since they are under the Navy. Much like having Navy and Marine pilots on a carrier. Just think if those Marines were SEALs. But then again, the people in the way of the SEALs with UBL were purposely not critically wounded instead of killed.

  16. Not only were the Marines unarmed, they were collecting toys to distribute to kids for Christmas! So, for his charity, Cpl Duggan was stabbed in the back.
    I personally think that the injuries suffered by the ass-ailant were probably suffered very quickly, as there were still three Marines left uninjured to deal with him. They did NOT lose control, otherwise he would be dead; they were merely incapacitating him, awaiting the local law enforcement. I also assume that they were busy performing first-aid type buddy care on their comrade, so they had time to think, and get their emotions under control. No matter WHAT “Perry” thinks, Marines are trained to think, as well as react.
    As the saying goes, “no better friend, no worse enemy” than a US Marine!

  17. I am just amazed the Marine let the guy stab him in the back. His fellow Marines probably kicked his ass later. ;-)

    Fell off a curb. Classic!

  18. cas wrote:

    Not only were the Marines unarmed, . . . .

    I don’t think a Marine who still has his two hands is ever unarmed.

  19. “A society becomes chaotic when some of it’s citizens take the law into their own hands and behave in an extreme manner.”
    No, I would say that a society becomes chaotic when there is no belief that the authorities will behave in a just manner and are unable to maintain the safety of the public.

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