The Google/Nightcruzr Tyranny Story That Won’t Die

I covered it here and here. Le·gal In·sur·rec·tion covered it here. Little Miss Attila covered it here and here, while giving a lot of “benefit of the doubt.” Head Noises alluded to it here and went so far as to create what may amount to be a WordPress mirror site as a result. Ann Althouse covered it here and here and here and here and here and here and here. (There are likely more from her but that’ll do.) Patterico’s Pontifications covered it here and here and here and here and here and here.

Let’s recap. Blogger, which is owned by Google (which is set to unveil the new Google Chrome amid this firestorm) had a major meltdown of sorts. From what I gather, basically if you ran a Blogger site, you were SOL for a time. Ann Althouse was especially hard hit as it appears she was flagged as a spam blog. Likely due to her reporting on the Wisconsin kerfuffle where Leftist thugs vandalized public property, vandalized private property, threatened neutral businesses, threatened the lives of Republicans, threatened Ann’s personal well-being. Ann had a back-and-forth with Google tech Nightcruzr where he verbally harangued her, abused her, and treated her disgracefully — then deleted his own comments. But since they were also comments that were received by email, his Leftist “memory-hole” trick failed, as they always do. Several people have claimed that immediately after challenging Nightcruzr, they were suddenly required to provide Google with either their cell phone number or their home phone number to “prove they’re them”. Well…

Patterico put that claim to the test. And what he found was… the claim was fully accurate. He used his Google account to challenge Nightcruzr, had his challenge deleted from the public page, and had his account frozen for all intents and purposes unless he gives out his phone number. And Patterico, being the wise blog-owner he is, made multiple screen-caps and published those screen-caps. For example:

So, yes, a Los Angeles ADA challenges Nightcruzr, a Google tech (who may be doing his “job” free of charge), and the LA ADA loses access to his Google account unless he provides his private personal telephone number. My observation: A) Nightcruzr is a megalomaniac in need of being terminated; B) Google needs to terminate Nightcruzr and police their people better; C) What a time to unveil the new Google Chrome, yes?

Also, don’t forget Google is in bed with Obama as per the CNN report DRJ linked.

UPDATE:
Thank you, Little Miss Attila, for the linkage and the blog traffic. You’re a hon.
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  2. You do realise that Google is a private company, right? You know, since you’re against all forms of regulation as “socialism”?

    And its terms of services state:

    4. Provision of the Services by Google

    4.1 Google has subsidiaries and affiliated legal entities around the world (“Subsidiaries and Affiliates”). Sometimes, these companies will be providing the Services to you on behalf of Google itself. You acknowledge and agree that Subsidiaries and Affiliates will be entitled to provide the Services to you.

    4.2 Google is constantly innovating in order to provide the best possible experience for its users. You acknowledge and agree that the form and nature of the Services which Google provides may change from time to time without prior notice to you.

    4.3 As part of this continuing innovation, you acknowledge and agree that Google may stop (permanently or temporarily) providing the Services (or any features within the Services) to you or to users generally at Google’s sole discretion, without prior notice to you. You may stop using the Services at any time. You do not need to specifically inform Google when you stop using the Services.

    4.4 You acknowledge and agree that if Google disables access to your account, you may be prevented from accessing the Services, your account details or any files or other content which is contained in your account.

    4.5 You acknowledge and agree that while Google may not currently have set a fixed upper limit on the number of transmissions you may send or receive through the Services or on the amount of storage space used for the provision of any Service, such fixed upper limits may be set by Google at any time, at Google’s discretion.

    But I think it would be entirely fair if Google compensated these gmail users with their money back…

  3. It is interesting that Pho, who is known to use a government internet access while working a government job and being paid by the government to spam blogs with his socialist tripe, wants to mock someone who is being grossly abused and mistreated and others who are also being abused and mistreated.

    Good on Pho, the government worker who gets paid by the tax-payers to spend government time on government internet to attack the private sector instead of doing the government job the government hired him to do.

  4. How is she being “grossly abused and mistreated”?

    Google, a private corporation that hosted her blog for free without disruption for years, had a system wide outage. Althouse, who apparently has never dealt with any form of technical support prior to this date, didn’t appreciate being treated like everyone else so she sent her fevered readers after an anonymous Google employee who executed company policy.

    “They’re just doing that because I’m a conservative!” is the new “They’re just doing that because I’m black!”

  5. And mike g proved he has no interest in honesty or integrity at all with his comment in this thread, else he would never have made that comment due to the facts surrounding the case and explicitly laid out in the article (and in the over 20 links this article provides).

    Hey, mike g, prove you’re not like all the rest of the Liberals (20 percent of US voters are Liberal) and tell the truth for a change. I double-dog-dare you.

  6. Meanwhile, back in reality:

    “4.3 As part of this continuing innovation, you acknowledge and agree that Google may stop (permanently or temporarily) providing the Services (or any features within the Services) to you or to users generally at Google’s sole discretion, without prior notice to you. You may stop using the Services at any time. You do not need to specifically inform Google when you stop using the Services.”

    You get what you pay for. Parasites belong, JH, to the group of people who have no legal right to require service.

  7. Asking me to prove a negative is an informal logical fallacy.

    Perhaps MissAtillaLittle could rise to the level of basic coherency?

  8. Here’s a fact Leftists like mike g and Socialists like Pho don’t want to know: Ann Althouse voted for Barack Obama in 2008. Stick that in your smipe and poke it, Leftists.

  9. Here’s a fact Leftists like mike g and Socialists like Pho don’t want to know: Ann Althouse voted for Barack Obama in 2008. Stick that in your smipe and poke it, Leftists.

    I am honestly completely baffled by the thought processes of someone who considers this a stinging retort.

  10. Jesus, Hitchcock, you loon, I just read the exchange and Mike nailed it dead on. The guy gave her the standard tech support answer that her case was in the queue for review, and Althouse and her supporters just kept demanding he serve her that instant. So they harass him, he gets a little lippy back, and the right-o-sphere lights up about poor Althouse getting abused?

    And, naturally, this proves all your conspiracies?

    You guys really aren’t handling Obama getting bin Laden well;

  11. Henry, you obviously did not read the material Nightcruzr tried to ‘memory hole’ that I have linked. But I didn’t expect any better from you. Do try to study to show yourself approved next time. Or, you could keep showing yourself to be the uneducated fool you are.

  12. Henry, I have over 20 links for you to study. If you have any integrity at all, you will admit Nightcruzr “memory-holed” a lot of material showing him to be anything but professional and showing his treatment of Ann Althouse to be anything but professional.

    But I seriously doubt you have the balls to admit you opened your pie hole before you knew the truth.

  13. Henry, I understand you recently posted your ACT score in science as if that meant something. You’re what? 19 or 20 now? I scored 29, 29, 33, 34 on my ACT for a Composite of 31. And that was in the mid ’80s when the ACT max was one point lower and the test itself was more strenuous. You might be able to walk around with your “brains” around other peeps, but you and I both know you will never succeed doing that with me.

    You actually have to work with me, and you have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt you cannot do the work.

  14. I scored 29, 29, 33, 34 on my ACT for a Composite of 31.

    Yes, but you’re an unemployed no-hoper who spends all his time lying on the Internet.

    Why should anyone believe you?

  15. Mike G challenged me once. He asked if I ever dealt with the process of creating an LLC (or something to that effect). I said I had and I gave a link that he followed that proved I had. He shut up after that.

    I mean, seriously. I use my real name. I provided where I lived before and where I live now. I proved to Mike G that I dealt with bureaucracy to create my own LLC. It’s not like I’m hiding anything or embellishing anything to make myself look good.

    Heck, a Conservative Christian is bad enough, right? But a Conservative Christian who wants express lanes to the exocution chamber on a site owned by someone who is against exocutions? It’s not like I’m trying to play myself up for vainglory or false accolades. If I’m vocal in my positions that even the host disagrees with, why would I hide any other of my positions? I mean, really. If I wanted to lie about something, you’d think I’d ingratiate myself with the host. But since I don’t even do that while posting here, I definitely won’t lie to make stupid Leftists feel smart.

  16. Wow, Hitchcock gets my age wildly wrong then pulls out his ACT scores. The meltdown continues…

    Oh, and you got something else wrong, Hitchcock: I read the entire thread at Patterico already. Althouse, frankly, should be ashamed of her prima donna act.

    Yet you’re calling for this guy to get fired/beaten up? Althouse and her maroons deserved quite a bit more verbal abuse than they got, which was quite mild. She screams with the intensity of a vain fool unmasked.

    What a bunch of disgusting thugs. You, Hitchcock, add to your thuggishness the extra quality of being white-hot insane. A lout and a loon. What does your 31 ACT matter when you’re so deranged? It just helps you pile the crap higher and deeper. A less intelligent person following the most basic tenets of Logic 101 could dismantle you.

    After your recent surveyor-scope and Obama-didn’t-order-the-bin-Laden-attack horsetwaddle, I’ve no grounds to act surprised anymore. There’s something deeply disturbed in you, and apparently the world must suffer for it. I wish you’d try therapy instead.

  17. Comment in moderation. I HAVE A BLOG THAT GETS MORE READERS THAN YOU GUYS I DEMAND YOU RELEASE IT FROM MODERATION RIGHT NOW!!!

    God help the guy in front of Althouse at the grocery checkout.

  18. Interesting that Iowa Liberal doesn’t have any way to show outsiders how many hits IL gets. My articles get as many as 1k readers a day or more from my TBD postings and my CSPT and Caffeinated Thoughts cross-postings and my FB and Twitter syndications and CSPT and CafThought syndications. Since I showed Henry Whistler my ACT scores that trashed his, he’s off to some other attempt to show he matters, he really matters, in the blogosphere. But when it is all boiled down, he really doesn’t matter.

  19. Yeah, Hank, I read your (moderated) comment. Which of Patterico’s seven posts did you read in its entirety? What a laugh for you to claim you read his one post in its entirety when there are seven!!! You must think everyone but you is an idiot! Well, think again, idiot.

  20. And tell me, Hank, what makes you better or smarter than an assistant District Attorney for Los Angeles? Seriously, dude. You really need to try poisoning smaller wells than that.

  21. 1. Your ACT scores don’t “trash” mine. My composite is the same as yours, although my English and Reading scores are quite a bit higher.
    2. Neither my ACT scores nor yours constitute an argument. You’re smart enough to know better, but you’re crazy.
    3. I read the full transcript including all deleted comments that you said I didn’t read. You should stop digging yourself deeper.
    4. The argument of authority is a classic fallacy. Ann Althouse being assistant DA doesn’t make her arguments correct. Arguments live or die on their own merits. You’ve got to “do the work,” Hitchcock.

  22. Hey I wrote a comment, posted it, and it’s just plain gone, no moderation or anything.

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  23. HITCHCOCK YOU READ MY COMMENT IN MODERATION BUT WON’T RELEASE IT BECAUSE YOU ARE AFRAID OF THE TRUTH I WON’T TOLERATE THIS ABUSE!

    I demand you serve me now!

    CONSPIRACY!!! CONSPIRACY!!! CONSPIRACY!!! CONSPIRACY!!! CONSPIRACY!!! CONSPIRACY!!! CONSPIRACY!!! CONSPIRACY!!! CONSPIRACY!!! CONSPIRACY!!! CONSPIRACY!!! CONSPIRACY!!! CONSPIRACY!!! CONSPIRACY!!! CONSPIRACY!!! CONSPIRACY!!! CONSPIRACY!!! CONSPIRACY!!! CONSPIRACY!!! CONSPIRACY!!! CONSPIRACY!!! CONSPIRACY!!! CONSPIRACY!!! CONSPIRACY!!! CONSPIRACY!!! CONSPIRACY!!! CONSPIRACY!!! CONSPIRACY!!! CONSPIRACY!!! CONSPIRACY!!! CONSPIRACY!!! CONSPIRACY!!! CONSPIRACY!!! CONSPIRACY!!! CONSPIRACY!!! CONSPIRACY!!!

  24. Henry Whislter spamming the site with his logorrhea. Typical. Henry Whistler giving a wrong attribution due to his inability to properly research. Typical. Henry Whistler being unable to research CSPT or know what has been loudly discussed. Typical. Henry Whistler failing at every turn. To be expected.

    Come on back, Hank, when you can show an intellectual level to discuss philosophy and current events commensurate with those you try to claim to be beneath your peers. That should take you maybe ten years or more.

  25. 1. Given your relatively healthy English and Reading scores, verbal irony shouldn’t be going over your head like this, Hitchcock. The crazy, it hobbles you!
    2. Wrong attribution? The link goes exactly where I said it goes, to the full transcript including the nitecruzr snark. I suggested you stop digging. The crazy makes you keep digging!
    3. The noise doesn’t work on me, Hitchcock. You’ve got to “do the work,” remember? The crazy prevents you from clocking in!
    4. It doesn’t take a massive ACT score to notice you’re scrambling for tangents to avoid making your case. Hint: It’s because Althouse was being a prima donna and her goons were harassing the tech guy who was doing his job first, and you can’t get around that. So you make noise.

  26. Way past my bedtime! I’ll deal with Hitchcock’s crazy tomorrow…but I won’t cure it!

    AND I EXPECT MY COMMENT RELEASED FROM MODERATION, I AM VERY IMPORTANT AND THE LONGER IT WAITS THE MORE IT PROVES THAT THERE IS AN EVIL CONSPIRACY HERE TO SILENCE LIBERAL VOICES! HITCHCOCK REFUSING TO RELEASE IT REVEALS THAT HE HAS NO HONOR!!!

    *sigh*

  27. We still don’t know why you announced a comments policy and stated that it applied to all, only to give a free pass to some.

    At least this demonstrates clearly where the nastiness and insults are really coming from.

  28. Based on the terms of service, ultimately anyone using Google/Blogger cannot bitch. But the power of the free market demands that such treatment accorded its customers be dealt with; in this case getting away from using Blogger and Gmail, moving to a rival service, and spreading the word about the lousy service and treatment by Google.

    Yet you’re calling for this guy to get fired/beaten up? Althouse and her maroons deserved quite a bit more verbal abuse than they got

    I certainly hope you’re not in business, Wheeler, b/c you certainly wouldn’t last long. The bottom line is that nothing justifies the actions by this nightcruzr buffoon, especially the subsequent ones of shutting down Gmail accounts because people made inquiries and/or complained about actions and service. Further, to pretend that Althouse and Patterico don’t deserve straight answers and prompt service is, again, ridiculous. Even though they make use of Google/Blogger’s free service, the fact that they’re so incredibly popular in the blogosphere ultimately benefits Google/Blogger. Taking care of them ahead of, say, your self-centered blog is only logical. It’s like me demanding that Colossus be fixed before Ace of Spades (we’re both mu.nu blogs) even though Ace gets a gazillion more hits/readers than I.

  29. Nitecruzr was apparently not the one who did the actual reviewing, and did what seemed to be within his power, bumping Althouse’s case up the queue, flagging it as important. The subsequent haranguing he got was completely unnecessary.

    I’ve certainly seen situations where customer service employees snapped back at imperious customers. Few were fired. Though Nitecruzr certainly should have thought twice before lipping off to somebody who would plaster every word all over the Internet and fluff the ready-made rage of the rightwing paranoiacs with cries of GOOGLE HATES CONSERVATIVES.

    I’d definitely write the guy up and have a talk with him. But isn’t that always the breaks? You get in trouble, but who writes up the a-hole customer? Althouse and her lackeys should feel embarrassed over this whinefest. And Hitchcock’s desire to see him beaten up should be identified as the thuggish trashiness that it is.

  30. Just another in a series of right wing conspiracy theories.

    I’m knee-deep in another, thankfully more limited one, but even so, the whining and egoistic self-important bellowing about how “I’m right, and there can be no other explanation for this but that (‘liberals’ / ‘this/these particular liberal(s)’ / ‘Google/this guy at Google/this liberal guy at Google) are conspiring to… (whatever they’re conspiring to do)” is getting really very hard to take at all seriously.

    No doubt Nitecruzr got testy–and yes, he said and subsequently deleted some things he should never’ve said in the first place–but Ann’s prima donna “Don’t you know who I AM!?!” act, along with her minions clogging up and whining in the help cue stream, was the reason the guy got testy. Add that to the fact that the guy was and likely had been, for some time, dealing with a whole lot else due to the Google meltdown (lotta questions, lotta folks being testy toward him because he couldn’t snap his fingers and make it all better, …), and it was a recipe for trouble. No, that doesn’t excuse him for being testy himself (maybe it would’ve been better if he’d just logged off, and not helped anyone at all, for a little while), but it should mitigate things, at least for those who can manage to see past a sinister political motive for everything that happens.

    Every time you get a flat, drop the ice cream off your cone, or have to work overtime, it’s not a part of Obama’s (or the Republican’s, or the Democrat’s, or the Illuminati’s) evil plan for one-world domination… Sometimes, these things just happen. (Who am I kidding? EVERYTHING is a part of the Illuminati’s evil plan for one-world domination. I’ve seen that pyramid on the dollar bill… I know they’re always watching… Can’t fool me… Not no way, not no how…)

    Full confession: The Illuminati made me write this comment. I feel so much better for having come clean. But if I don’t comment again for awhi…

  31. Nitecruzr states in his online bio that he reads Heinlein and Tom Clancy. I smell cover-up!

  32. But the power of the free market demands that such treatment accorded its customers be dealt with; in this case getting away from using Blogger and Gmail, moving to a rival service, and spreading the word about the lousy service and treatment by Google.

    You should start soliciting start-up funds for a right wing search engine. I’m thinking an Ask Jeeves-Conservapedia hybrid.

  33. You should start soliciting start-up funds for a right wing search engine. I’m thinking an Ask Jeeves-Conservapedia hybrid.

    Of course, if that would happen, Google would begin bitching about how they don’t have “freedom of speech” or some other such nonsense — much like idiot pampered singers and movie stars do when they say/do something stupid, and then wonder why average folk stop spending their money/time on them.

    [released from moderation - pH]

  34. I can’t believe I just wasted 15 minutes reading all the comments in this ridiculous thread. Talk about straining at gnats!

  35. I can’t believe I just wasted 15 minutes reading all the comments in this ridiculous thread. Talk about straining at gnats!

    This is the same group who believes:

    - Obama is a Kenyan-born Muslim Communist
    - The science behind climate change is a conspiracy to get research funds AND
    - Evolution is a religion.

  36. Oh, and by the way, Eric,

    On 18 March, you made the following statement:

    My initial goal is to make at least a million bucks. Figuring this will take about a thousand hours to finish, that works out to about a thousand dollars an hour. And of course there is the movie version. ideally, Ridley Scott would direct. Such a film would probably gross about 500 million bucks worldwide, with me hopefully getting a percentage of the gross.

    Gee – how’s that book working out for you, Eric?…

    Bwahahahahahahah.

  37. Of course, if that would happen, Google would begin bitching about how they don’t have “freedom of speech” or some other such nonsense — much like idiot pampered singers and movie stars do when they say/do something stupid, and then wonder why average folk stop spending their money/time on them.

    Replace “Google” with “Sarah Palin” and I think you might be on to something.

    [retrieved from moderation - pH]

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