folliesGovernment ‘YOU WILL DIE!!!!’: Read the Shocking E-Mail Sent to Wis. GOP Senators
Posted on March 10, 2011 at 11:21am by Jonathon M. Seidl
The following is a shocking, scary e-mail sent to Wisconsin GOP senators last night at around 9:30 pm, shortly after the Senate passed an anti-union bill. Not only does the e-mail threaten the senators with death, but it also vows “your familes [sic] will also be killed due to your actions in the last 8 weeks.”
From: XXXX
Sent: Wed 3/9/2011 9:18 PM
To: Sen.Kapanke; Sen.Darling; Sen.Cowles; Sen.Ellis; Sen.Fitzgerald; Sen.Galloway; Sen.Grothman; Sen.Harsdorf; Sen.Hopper; Sen.Kedzie; Sen.Lasee; Sen.Lazich; Sen.Leibham; Sen.Moulton; Sen.Olsen
Subject: Atten: Death threat!!!! Bomb!!!!
Please put your things in order because you will be killed and your familes
will also be killed due to your actions in the last 8 weeks. Please explain
to them that this is because if we get rid of you and your families then it
will save the rights of 300,000 people and also be able to close the deficit
that you have created. I hope you have a good time in hell. Read below for
more information on possible scenarios in which you will die.
WE want to make this perfectly clear. Because of your actions today and in
the past couple of weeks I and the group of people that are working with me
have decided that we’ve had enough. We feel that you and the people that
support the dictator have to die. We have tried many other ways of dealing
with your corruption but you have taken things too far and we will not stand
for it any longer. So, this is how it’s going to happen: I as well as many
others know where you and your family live, it’s a matter of public records.
We have all planned to assult you by arriving at your house and putting a
nice little bullet in your head. However, we decided that we wouldn’t leave
it there. We also have decided that this may not be enough to send the
message to you since you are so “high” on Koch and have decided that you are
now going to single handedly make this a dictatorship instead of a
demorcratic process. So we have also built several bombs that we have placed
in various locations around the areas in which we know that you frequent.
More at the link
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/you-will-die-read-the-shocking-e-mail-sent-to-wis-gop-senators/
i am jack’s complete lack of surprise.
Pardon me, Dana, but this email is talking about the murder of eight people.
Hoagie just called for the extermination of one and a half billion people based on their religion, much as the Nazis did for the Jews.
And you’re complaining that the Democrats are uncivil?
Jesse Jackson has swooped into Wisconsin to save the day or, more likely, to find a way to get on television one more time. He succeeded in his quest and in the few minutes allotted him as an inconsequential voice from the past, Jackson vowed to do his part to increase the scale of the protests.
Perhaps Jesse Jackson’s “message” has struck a chord, prompting the author or authors of that death threat to increase the scale of the protests.
Jackson bemoaned the fact that the Democrats in the WI Senate were not able to debate the bill before the vote was taken. He seems to have forgotten–or thinks that those who were watching him on TV have forgotten–that the Dem senators had fled to another state to avoid having to face that vote. (Of course, the runaways were given enough notice prior to the vote so they could have returned had they wished to do so, but they must have been too involved in their taxpayer-funded foosball tournament in the gameroom of their hideaway resort to pay attention to their e-mail.)
Based on the known extremism by the American Right, I would not be at all surprised if this is just one more fraud, meant to stigmatize unions this time.
Nevertheless, if it is real, it is detestable! But so has been the behavior of the Republicans on this issue.
To these Republicans, this issue has nothing to do with the budget, and everything to do with union busting, that is, depriving the public sector employees of their right to bargain collectively.
So what is the result of this vote? Color Wisconsin blue, color Ohio blue, color Michigan blue, color Indiana blue, and color New Jersey blue. And guess what, there will probably be more.
Thing is, this is a specific threat of specifiable harm to particular individuals; whoever wrote that broke the law, and, if caught, will be prosecuted for terroristic threatening. That’s a felony; if convicted, he’ll be the recipient of several years of free government housing.
Ah, yes. Death threats vs. … doing away with collective bargaining for benefits??
Thanks once again, Idiot Perry, for showing us all the utterly ridiculous moral relativist that you are.
Thing is, this is a specific threat of specifiable harm to particular individuals; whoever wrote that broke the law, and, if caught, will be prosecuted for terroristic threatening.
Hoagie is advocating genocide, Dana. You were NOT complaining about this death threat being illegal; you were complaining about it being “uncivil”.
Hoagie wants to kill 1.5 billion people because of the actions of, at most, 50,000.
And you’re not saying a word about that…
I guess the author has decided that the public is the servant …
Perry says:
10 March 2011 at 15:44
Based on the known extremism by the American Right, I would not be at all surprised if this is just one more fraud, meant to stigmatize unions this time.
Citations and proof is needed to accept this comment. When has anyone on the Right threatened to kill whole families because they didn’t like their vote.
I asked this question before and few seem to want to answer. Why do public service people need a union? Generally, the unions, sometimes forcibly, collect dues which the union almost exclusively uses for campaigning for Democrats who vote more for more money to the workers. It is a vicious cycle of collusion, quid-pro-quo and racketeering.
Actually, Phoe, had you paid attention, you’d have seen that I didn’t write the post at all.
Actually, Phoe, had you paid attention, you’d have seen that I didn’t write the post at all.
Noted. Yorkshire has an excuse, his senility.
I’ll be sure to bring up the call by one of the bloggers here for the genocide of one and half billion people every time it is appropriate.
Sigh. No monopoly on crazy for either side, I suppose. (Yorkshire, go here for just one example of conservatives behaving badly.)
Also, jd is now on the “cool points” board for the “Fight Club” reference.
Well, someone who has a view of the Southern Cross has not made a bit of sense in this whole thread. Actually Pho, your personal attacks here amount to a pile of incoherent drivell. If it was for the bogus address, I would have thought Charlie Sheen has taken over your answers. Keep typing, the amusement of your statemnts tell me your on something maybe even better than poor Charlie.
Well, someone who has a view of the Southern Cross has not made a bit of sense in this whole thread. Actually Pho, your personal attacks here amount to a pile of incoherent drivell. If it was for the bogus address, I would have thought Charlie Sheen has taken over your answers. Keep typing, the amusement of your statemnts tell me your on something maybe even better than poor Charlie.
Well, keep telling us about “drivell”, and perhaps your “statemnts” will convince us that “your” not senile.
Jeff says:
10 March 2011 at 21:20
Sigh. No monopoly on crazy for either side, I suppose. (Yorkshire, go here for just one example of conservatives behaving badly.)
Now there you went and did Perry’s assignment. The problem in this supercharged atmosphere we’re in, the nuts are coming out of the woodwork. But the point of this specific post is someone laid out a two or three page email threatening to kill the Republican Senators and their families. That can’t be ignored.
For Piven, people do tend to take things personally when you have someone’s life work is to bring down the economy of this Country. If you noticed lately, that’s coming quicker than we think. We have physical proof everyday of irrational deficits. February’s deficit was more than all of 2007. Yes people are scared and irrational. 35% of working age adults rely on the Government for some subsitence. We seem to be in an airplane in a flat spin and the pilot bales out and plays golf.
For Piven, people do tend to take things personally when you have someone’s life work is to bring down the economy of this Country. If you noticed lately, that’s coming quicker than we think. We have physical proof everyday of irrational deficits. February’s deficit was more than all of 2007. Yes people are scared and irrational. 35% of working age adults rely on the Government for some subsitence. We seem to be in an airplane in a flat spin and the pilot bales out and plays golf.
As has been shown, Yorkshire, economic predictions by such groups as Goldman Sachs state that Republican spending cuts to address the deficit will depress the economy.
The Republican noise machine has started screaming about “deficits” as a way to bash Obama, and wingnuts such as yourself have picked up on it like good little dupes. And yet the sober analysis states that deficit spending is desirable in the present circumstances.
And you wonder why people look down on wingnuts?
[released from moderation - pH]
Phoenician in a time of Romans says:
10 March 2011 at 21:27
Well, keep telling us about “drivell”, and perhaps your “statemnts” will convince us that “your” not senile.
Well, when you deal with a person who chooses to denigrate people because it makes you feel like you have the upper hand, when your nothing more than the little boring little boy who sits in his sand box throwing sand in everyone’s faces because it makes you feel big, when you’re nothing but the 5 year old bully who thinks he king of the world, but your throne is your toilet seat.
York, one could also say that people “tend to take things personally” when their collective bargaining rights are being stripped, which will lead to significantly lower pay and benefits for them – in your parlance, to bring down the lives they’ve worked hard to build. It still doesn’t make it right – or even justifiable – to threaten to kill elected officials, academics, or really anyone.
Think about it. You would – rightly – call out a liberal for justifying threats placed on conservatives. I just hope you’d be able to switch the direct object and the prepositional object in that previous sentence and have it be as true.
Jeff says:
10 March 2011 at 22:10
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Think about this, a few million Fed workers, including me, were told last November our pay was frozen for two years, and it may go to five years. What you did not see were mass protest from the Federal workers on this issue. We knew thing were bad. Of course people grumbled about, but were resigned to having to accept it. Yes, the Feds have unions, but their useless until it’s time to talk about working condition. It did give us more flexible hours to work. But there were no mass demonstrations, no take-over of the US Capitol, no trashing of buildings. It was just hope maybe next year things will ease and the ban lifted, but I doubt it. When I went to work that day the pay was frozen, I left a building in the same condition it was in when I got there. I think state workers could take lessons from their Fed countrparts and know we’re all getting screwed equally for hopefully the good of the monetary situation. States have it tougher since they must balance their budgets and no one wants their sacred golden calf gored.
Threats that specific from either side call for a response. I’m not so wedded to the Right as some are on the Left. If some is acting stupid on the Right, they deserve everything that’s coming to them. One thing we don’t have now is anything close to civil discourse. It seemed like BO asked for that last week, and has gone into hiding. BO right now should direct the Director of the FBI to track the writer of the email since it is terroristic threats. But we hear silence. You can’t have civil discourse when the D’s and R’s in the Senate are haggling over a budget bill, and BO appears to look at it as radioactive. Also the same person asking for civility spent the first two years threatening and telling the R’s they lost, now sit in the back of the bus. Can you imagine Bush saying the same thing to the D’s?
So, 10% of the national labor workforce along with their fawning media “chicken-shits” had their three weeks of claiming the faux assault on middle class workers is finally over. Watch how fast the media abandons this “cause” because it’s no longer newsworthy. As this momentum takes hold in other states, the union’s sweetheart deals with Democrats will fade into history along with their social policies designed to choke free enterprise. It’s a win-win for the working class and the public as a whole. Public contracts will become competitive again and so will private production for small businesses who never had a chance to bid on projects. Unions will survive, but they will re-think how their bosses spend the dues solely on the Democratic Party who installed their “yes men” on the condition of voting in favor of union only projects and benefits. States may actually become fiscally healthy again without the burden of inflated cost with the union-only label. Ain’t Democracy grand?
when you’re nothing but the 5 year old bully who thinks he king of the world,
Yorkshire, I’m not an ignorant fuckwit calling for the extermination of 1.5 billion people because of their religion.
Did someone who denigrates people daily lose these?
York, it’s my understanding that the union accepted the state’s fiscal demands. The sticking point was Walker’s vindictive desire to strip bargaining rights from public employees. As the GOP proved by passing the bargaining provision without the quorum necessary for budget-related bills, that wasn’t about the budget but rather about ideology. It’s that extra insult that filled the streets of Madison, I think.
Regardless, public protests are a vital part of a healthy democracy, and had you and your fellow Fed employees decided to raise a stink in the streets, I wouldn’t have blamed you. But yeah, there’s a fine line between passion and civility. I’d even be okay with a little incivility as long as it didn’t turn violent. But it seems some people can’t control themselves, and that’s a shame.
Also, York, I’ve been lost on the way here before – does that count?
“Faux assault on middle class workers” you say, Rovin? Have you been watching the same unfolding on this very real assault on middle class workers as I’ve watched day after day?
I think Jeff put the truth of the matter very well right here .
First of all, Yorkshire, I don’t agree with your characterization, since I think it is motivated strictly by your political agenda. The proof is the fact that you single out one person on “the other” side for denigrating people, yet neglect all the garbage that emanates from your side. Am I correct about this, Yorkshire?
Jeff says:
10 March 2011 at 23:22
Also, York, I’ve been lost on the way here before – does that count?
I don’t think you could lose them, unless after getting the pHD you have no more room left.
While our friends on the left will want to paint this as an “assault on the middle class,” what it actually is is an attempt to protect a larger group — the taxpayers — from a smaller group (one which makes slightly more money) taking more of the larger group’s paychecks due to forced tax increases to pay the wage and benefit demands of the smaller group.
Like it or not, the public employees live off the taxes of the taxpayers in general. If they were unionized workers for a private company, and their demands got too exorbitant, the private company’s customers could always refuse to buy the company’s products when they became too costly. But when it comes to government, we have no choice but to “buy.” The police power of the state enforces tax collections.
Governor Walker may have overplayed his hand; I guess that we’ll see in two years.
Employees should have the right to be represented, whether the employee is government or private.
Dictator Walker (and other Repub Governors) have taken away this bargaining right, claiming falsely that it is all about the budget. Walker out and out lied. And the Wisconsin public employees were willing to give back what Walker wanted in cuts. This assault is so wrong, in my view.
This onslaught will not be forgotten in 2012, believe you me!
In addition, several of these governors are shifting money from public employees to corporations in the form of tax cuts. What are these shifts all about? They are not about the budget, they are about right wing ideology, to the detriment of the worker, to the benefit of the wealthy.
Moreover, the Republican Governor of MI is trying to get legislation passed that will give him the authority to take over any local government at his will. Right, Repubs want small government. BS!
The Repub Governor of FL is busy trying to make voting more difficult for ex-cons and minorities.
No, all this is not about the budget, it is about ideology, and doing all that is possible to enable the recovery and perpetuation of Republican rule, regardless of the means required to achieve the ends.
So what’s new?
While our friends on the left will want to paint this as an “assault on the middle class,” what it actually is is an attempt to protect a larger group — the taxpayers — from a smaller group (one which makes slightly more money) taking more of the larger group’s paychecks due to forced tax increases to pay the wage and benefit demands of the smaller group.
If you wanted to protect a large group of taxpayers, why did you allow the rich minority to shift so much more of the tax burden to the middle classes?
Considering the theatrics the R party with those like the fools involved with the ACORN scam, it wouldn’t surprise me if this is another charade, so common now from the Republicans, then they can deflect from all the filthy tactics used by Republicans, and their big brothers with all the cash to make anything happen, the Koch brothers.
Looks like somebody is in trouble!
Odd that the suspect has not been publicly identified.
Dana Pico says:
11 March 2011 at 19:36
Looks like somebody is in trouble!
Wisconsin Dept. of Justice Identifies Sender of Death Threats
Maybe, but I doubt it could be someone high up in the gummint. Very High.
Dana observed, “Odd that the suspect has not been publicly identified.”
Yes, usually this sort of preferential treatment is reserved for Islamic terrorists, Democrat office holders, Obama’s racist preachers, and MSM’s pampered pundits. Perhaps union thugs have earned an upgrade to ride in the front of the bus along with all the other Democrat elites who are above the law.
Annnnnnd, we have this story:
Hmmm – so this politician is invoking privileges of the law to get away free from battering a woman, who is sent to jail for being in that same fight. Now, the story is careful not to mention the political affiliation of this arrogant prick, who obviously considers himself above the law that governs lesser mortals.
Would anyone like to guess?…
Come on – any guesses before clicking the link?