Michelle Marie Antoinette O Goes To Spain – Americans Go To The Unemployment Line

 Michelle Marie Antoinette Obama has taken the country for fools.  While Americans are pinching every penney they have, wonder if they’ll have a job tomorrow, wonder if their wages will be cut, knowing their health benefits will be more expensive or lost, knowing their taxes will probably rise, maybe didn’t take a vacation to save the money just in case, these poseurs are shoving this vacation in our faces.

 Of course when Marie Antoinette returns, they are off to Nantucket and basically telling us to Fu.. .t.
 
 
Michelle Obama’s Spanish vacation draws critics
As the president preaches frugality in lean economic times, his wife and youngest daughter are vacationing at a luxury resort outside Marbella. Officials say the Obamas will pay for personal expenses.

By Peter Nicholas and Katherine Skiba, Tribune Washington Bureau

August 7, 2010

Reporting from Washington

As the economy endures high unemployment and a jittery stock market, President Obama has preached sacrifice and fiscal discipline. But the pictures coming out of a sun-splashed Spanish resort this week may be sending a different message.

First Lady Michelle Obama is in the midst of a five-day trip to a luxury resort along with a few friends, her youngest daughter, aides and Secret Service personnel. Her office said the family will pay for personal expenses, but won’t reveal the taxpayer cost for the government employees.

Elected officials — Democrats and Republicans — were reluctant to weigh in, not wanting to appear critical of the president’s wife. But the trip provided plenty of fodder for television news anchors, talk-show hosts and bloggers.

Critics portrayed the foreign getaway as tone-deaf to the deep economic anxiety back home. Earlier in the week, the first lady was photographed walking through the streets of the Costa del Sol region wearing a one-shouldered Jean Paul Gaultier top.

Every first family takes vacations. The criticism aimed at Michelle Obama is that she chose to visit a foreign country rather than remain in the U.S. and support its fragile economy.

Last month the first lady flew to the Florida Panhandle, a tourist draw hit hard by the oil spill crisis, and delivered the message that for parents “looking for things to do with their kids this summer … this is a wonderful place to visit.”

The opulence of the European trip also has drawn scrutiny. The president has urged frugality in lean economic times. He once cautioned that families saving money for college shouldn’t “blow a bunch of cash in Vegas.”

Michelle Obama is staying at the Hotel Villa Padierna, a Ritz-Carlton resort in the mountains outside Marbella. The resort boasts two golf courses, a posh spa with Turkish baths, views of the Mediterranean Sea and a high-end restaurant specializing in avant-garde fare. Room rates start at $400 and rise to $6,500 for a two-bedroom villa with a private pool and 24-hour butler service.

The danger for the Obamas is that the trip may feed perceptions that they are elites, out of touch with struggling American families, said Chris Wilson, a Republican pollster.

“This in and of itself doesn’t hurt President Obama, but it plants a seed in voters’ minds that she’s not like me, that they’re not like me,” he said.

Get more pissed off here:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-michelle-spain-20100807,0,7091802,print.story

Shame she couldn’t take all the taxpayers who funded her vacation. I haven’t had a vacation this year, wish I could have taken one of their many vacation in 2010.  FLOTUS must be a grueling job.  8-)

116 Comments

  1. i think the most i ever spent on a hotel was in palm springs calf. i could have given them a heads up on some nice resorts in the palm desert area. probably could have saved them a ton of money. but alas, they didnt ask. lol

    well at least we can rest assured they are probably avoiding trans-fats and too much sugar.

    speaking of which.. i think we are off to applebee’s for some wings, a beer and desert. (i think i am safe since the main food police chief is in spain… lol)

  2. derriereabovemetaldrinkcontainers wrote:

    speaking of which.. i think we are off to applebee’s for some wings, a beer and desert. (i think i am safe since the main food police chief is in spain… lol)

    I’m sorry, but we’ll need a Body Mass Index number before you may pass through the door. And your menu will be restricted based upon your BMI, for your own good, of course. Salt shakers have been removed from the table.

    And beer? You’ll need a Certified Designated Driver™ in your party; please be aware of that.

  3. Yorkshire, are you envious and jealous of the Obamas? It appears so!

    First of all, it is standard procedure to provide secret service protection for the first family wherever they go, or any of them go, partly because you radical extremists are so unpredictable and carry out your threats to do physical harm.

    Secondly, the Obama’s are paying all their own private expenses.

    Thirdly, it is quite hypocritical of righties who never utter a word about the outrageous executive pay scales, often independent of whether their companies are doing well or not, and independent of the wage levels of their own employees. And how about the Repub obstructionists against extending unemployment insurance to those whose payments have run out, and to the 99ers who have not been able to get a job.

    So this is one more example of the righties’ hypocritically attacking the President whom they appear to despise. Or are their racist motives at play here, where it grinds away to see a black family living high on the hog, as if they don’t deserve to?

    Now all that said, I do think that Michelle Obama is using bad judgment during times like these to take on such an extravagant vacation. I also think I am in a much better position to criticize than all you hypocritical righties. Get it?

  4. Yorkshire: “I wish everyone in America had $375K taxpayer money to take a vacation. Of course there’s that 9.5%+ unemployed wished they had $3.75″

    That’s the first time I can recall your expressing on here some concern for the unemployed!

  5. Perry in High Dudgeaon Spouts:
    Now all that said, I do think that Michelle Obama is using bad judgment during times like these to take on such an extravagant vacation. I also think I am in a much better position to criticize than all you hypocritical righties. Get it?
    Bite me

    Perry, you are on your high horse riding in all directions again. Your spouting, blubbering diatribe is a result of you not reading the post. It’s all about your last sentence. King Farook, and Queen Michelle are just sticking it to the “little people” and flounting it right in our faces.

    King Farook says he “cares”. Sorry, but this vacation says he doesn’t give a shit about you, me, and the rest of the cast of characters in this group. He only cares about himself. It’s time you woke up and see this poseur for what he is. He may have had an Ivy League education, he may be a lawyer, but if this were baseball, he’d flunk out of instructional league.

  6. Perry:

    So this is one more example of the righties’ hypocritically attacking the President…

    Precisely what I thought when I saw this story here. I wish the news story had been, “Wealthy woman goes on shopping spree.” Then, every conservative would be begging for the important information: Are they Democrats? Or do they deserve to spend the money they earned?

  7. Nangleator says:
    7 August 2010 at 9:20 pm (Edit)
    Perry:

    So this is one more example of the righties’ hypocritically attacking the President…

    If this were Bush it would be wall to wall blathering on PMSNBC, the NYT, WaPo and other JournoList participants.

  8. Yorkshire: “Perry, you are on your high horse riding in all directions again. “

    Even when we agree, you cannot admit it! Instead you have to continue your twisting and spinning.

    Be honest and admit it: You hate the man.

    No matter what he does, or any of his supporters say, you will find a way to object.

    Seriously, you seem to be listening too much to Rush and Beck, because you mimic their talking points and their hate-speak. I suspect you are a much better person than either of those two, but their rhetoric has the real you all covered up.

  9. Perry Fishing Without Bait sez:
    Be honest and admit it: You hate the man.

    I don’t hate the man. I’m sure he’d be fun to talk to and have a beer. But I certainly hate what he is doing to the country. He said he was going to fundamentally change America. He has for the worse and there’s no sign on the horizon of it getting better. And you are right I care about the unemployed, but you certainly delivered a mixed message.

  10. Yorkshire, are you envious and jealous of the Obamas? It appears so!

    Definitely class envy there.

    Meanwhile, of course, Bush took 977 days of vacation in his eight years as President. And consider the cost of running Camp David for a few days for the President, all his hangers on and staff, and their security.

    But that’s the thing with authoritarian followers. The people they believe are their natural masters can do no wrong; wingnuts kiss their asses while they shit all over them, and wipe their asses with the Constitution. But anyone else must be doing something wrong…

    Yet another manufactured wingnut pseudo-scandal.

  11. I also think I am in a much better position to criticize than all you hypocritical righties. Get it?

    Wrong, wrong, wrong. Anyone who pays taxes has every right to criticize anybody spending their money. Unfortunately, you only see through the prism of political parties.

    The whole ostentatious vacation reflects unbelievably poor judgment as well as reflecting very badly on the President’s ability to grasp the mood of the American people. It was vital for the Obama’s to go to the Gulf before going anywhere else to not only set the example, knowing that the public would follow, but to also show us that they are not just ‘do as I say, not as I do’ scolds. Unfortunately they blew it.

    While it’s true Bush spent a lot of days on vacation, there is no comparison between a ranch in West Texas with he and his wife v. one of the most expensive resort areas of Spain, the First Lady, 40 of her friends, and personnel on top of that.

    I would add that while the Obama’s are personally paying for some of the trip, the point is with almost 10% unemployment and 70,000 jobs lost this month, this is a bitter pill for the public to swallow and a serious error in judgment on the first family’s part.

  12. While it’s true Bush spent a lot of days on vacation, there is no comparison between a ranch in West Texas with he and his wife v. one of the most expensive resort areas of Spain, the First Lady, 40 of her friends, and personnel on top of that.

    Reeeeeeally?

    Tell me, how many tax payer dollars were spent to ensure Bush could enjoy that ranch? I think you’ll find more than 40 people involved…

    And, oh, guess what?

    We checked with the White House for a price breakdown of the trip, looking for a smoking gun. And honestly, there isn’t one. The bulk of the trip—the hotel stay and all meals—were paid for by the Obamas and their close friends who joined them. “Any additional footprint,” says a White House aide, “including additional rooms needed for security support, falls under the same rules as have applied to any previous first-family travel: the costs are split appropriately, with private expenses paid for privately; government expenses are paid for by the government.”

    So what you’re screaming about is that this president, who you claim to be a raving socialist, is spending his own goddamned money in ways you personally object to.

    But wait a minute…

    Aside from Camp David, President Bush’s two favorite vacation retreats were: the Crawford, Texas ranch he bought just before coming president in order to look like a regular guy, and his father’s Kennebunkport, Maine compound. Bush’s Crawford ranch — a sprawling, 1,583 acre riverfront property Bush reportedly purchased for $1.2 million, on which he built a 4,000-square-foot main house, a guest house, next to the already-existing “Governor’s house” — certainly qualifies a “posh” in my book. And I would challenge anyone to refer to Bush the elder’s estate, which reportedly was built for his grandfather George Walker in 1903, and boasts nine bedrooms, four sitting rooms, a pool, tennis court, dock, boathouse, and a guesthouse — and is reportedly worth $8 million — as “low-key.”

    But getting back to her suggestion that following Bush’s example would save taxpayer money. President Bush took 149 trips to Camp David, 77 visits to his Crawford ranch, and 11 trips to his father’s Kennebunkport mansion. Since Air Force One reportedly cost $56,800 per hour to operate in 2004 (which Bush used to get to Crawford), and the plane can travel up to 630 miles per hour, it cost at least $259,657 to get the 2,880 miles to Crawford and back, each time Bush went, or roughly $20 million dollars just for taking the plane on the Crawford trips alone. Add in the cost of putting up Secret Service and other staff for the ranch trips, as well as the Kennebunkport and Camp David trips, and you get, well, a lot.

    Like I said – another goddamned wingnut pseudo-scandal, whipped up to enrage know-nothing morons.

  13. I would add that while the Obama’s are personally paying for some of the trip, the point is with almost 10% unemployment and 70,000 jobs lost this month, this is a bitter pill for the public to swallow and a serious error in judgment on the first family’s part.

    and yet you’re not complaining about people much richer than the Obamas who are also spending their money as they see fit, people who make their money by paying crappy wages to actual Americans.

    Why is that?

  14. As our friends on the left are criticizing Yorkshire, it seems to me to be time to point out that most of the article was reproduced (with the appropriate source citation) from The Los Angeles Times. It wasn’t Yorkshire who used the most appropriate adjective, “tone-deaf,” but Peter Nicholas and Katherine Skiba, the Times’ article writers. (I made a formatting change to make the quoted parts more obvious.)

    Tone-deaf seems to me to be the most appropriate description. Presidents and their families are expected to take vacations, and you never hear a word about the Obama’s frequent weekends at Camp David. This trip just seems different.

    Though her friends arrived in Spain on their own, Michelle and Sasha Obama flew in on a type of aircraft that is also used by Vice President Joe Biden. It costs the government $11,555 an hour to operate the plane, according to the Air Force. Assuming a nearly eight-hour flight to nearby Malaga, the total round-trip cost of the flight is about $178,000.

    The Obama family will reimburse the government an amount equal to two first-class tickets, Air Force officials said. A round-trip first-class flight to Malaga costs about $7,400, without discounts or restrictions.

    I don’t know what you can do about that. The President’s family can’t travel on a commercial airliner, and that means huge expenses. But we shouldn’t forget that, just because these expenses are part of the deal in having a President, that the President ought to at least consider some frugality.

    President Bush was criticized for his trips to his ranch in Crawford, Texas, but Crawford had an advantage: it was isolated, and the government was able to put in semi-permanent facilities for the President’s staff and the Secret Service, avoiding a lot of duplication. The Obama’s personal home is in Chicago, an area which would make Presidential security more difficult.

  15. EL MUNDO published the following:

    Varias casas reales árabes también pasan sus veranos en Marbella desde hace años. Así, habrá un encuentro entre Michelle Obama y el príncipe Salman bin Abdelaziz, gobernador de Riad y hermano del fallecido Rey Fahd de Arabia Saudí; mientras que se baraja otra reunión de la primera dama con el propietario del Málaga CF, empresario multimillonario, hijo del ministro del Interior de Qatar y miembro de la familia real qatarí, Abdullah Al Thani.

    - – - – - – - – - – -
    Victoria Delsoul roughly translates as follows:

    It says, that it’s going to be a meeting between Michelle Obama and prince Salman bin Abdelaziz, governor of Riyadh and brother of the deceased King Fahd of Saudi Arabia; whereas there would be another meeting of the first lady with the owner of the Malaga CF, businessman multimillionaire, son of the Secretary of the Interior of Qatar and member of the real family qatarí, Abdullah Al Thani.
    —————–
    While Americans at home suffer the dog days of August, and struggle with high unemployment a sluggish economy, and arrogant out-of-touch politians, Michelle Obama is living la dolce vita in high style hobnobbing with the rich and famous.

    The UK’s TELEGRAPH is reporting:

    “…Meanwhile at the five-star luxury Villa Padierna, where the group have chosen to spend their mini-break, preparations were under way for Marbella’s event of the year – a star-studded charity gala hosted by Hollywood A-listers Antonio Banderas and Eva Longoria.

    Expectation was high that the First Lady would be the special guest at the event on Saturday night after she received a personal invitation from Ms Longoria, star of Desperate Housewives, who lent her support to Barack Obama during his presidential campaign.

    More than 400 tickets have been sold for the Starlite Gala at 1000 euros each, according to organisers, and reports suggested that this week another 200 people had applied for tickets and were on a waiting list after learning that Mrs Obama might be present.

    Among those clamouring to dine in the same room as the wife of the US President are a host of European celebrities and aristocrats, including Gunilla Gräfin von Bismarck, great-granddaughter of Otto, who has a home in Marbella.

    Also in attendance will be tennis player Boris Becker with his wife Lilly Kerssenberg, and bestselling spiritual guru Deepak Chopra, who had all flown in for the fund-raising Starlite gala in aid of children’s charities.

    One name on the guest list that could raise a few eyebrows among US diplomatic circles is Adnan Khashoggi.

    The Saudi Arabian businessman, 75, who made his name as an arms dealer in the 1980s, was linked to the Iran-Contra scandal in which the Reagan administration allegedly sanctioned the sale of weapons to Iran in breach of an international arms embargo…”

  16. look, they are the president and his wife, i would not expect them to go to six flags theme park and eat subway subs and stay in a super8 motel for their vacation. hell, i enjoy a nice resort, a cool rental car and fine eats when i can too.

    but…there is this little matter of them telling us we need to drive those crappy little “green” cars, eat what they say is acceptable, pass laws that make us bail out whom they decide needs bailed out. we are told we are in the worst recession since… and that we need to cut back. we are informed that many of the jobs lost aren’t coming back for years, if ever…they tell us the wealth must be spread around yet they don’t do this themselves or set a good example of their own ideology they push on others.

    even dumb brutes can see that this is hypocritical. one does not need a college degree or have genius status to know when someone is acting disingenuous. an honest understanding of human nature will inform you of your own as well as others hypocrisy.

    this is the weakness of liberals, they believe in human perfection, themselves being the gold standard of such. that fools some people for awhile. their pious rhetoric does not match their own actions.

    (the wings and beer were great :) )

  17. as i recall obama told people they ought not spend their money on a vegas vacation some time back.

    ouch.

  18. This trip just seems different.

    Because the wingnut fringe are waxing hysterical about something they wouldn’t even notice if it were a Republican doing it.

  19. aotc, I skip the wings and wait for an .89/lb special on chicken legs. Get several family packs and freeze all but one. Make my wings sauce and use it over grilled legs, more flavor, more meat, and for a lot less money. Football season will soon be upon us, time to stock up.

    Or, drop by the local Hooter’s on Wednesdays for the hump-day special.

  20. Thanks to PiaToR, and Media Matters for America, I think the case has been made that some Repubs on here and in the press are behaving in an hypocritical manner on this Michele Obama vacation issue. That said, I still feel that Michele Obama used poor judgment at this time.

  21. When Perry writes about hypocrisy we should all take notice. After all, Perry’s comments are expert exemplars of the hypocritical in service to the duplicitous.

  22. roper: “When Perry writes about hypocrisy we should all take notice. After all, Perry’s comments are expert exemplars of the hypocritical in service to the duplicitous.”

    And your example is?

    Pot kettle black, roper! I think PiaToR has well demonstrated your hypocrisy. You criticize the Obama’s, but fail to criticize the behavior of the outrageous pay and life style of the rich and famous, whose wealth is acquired on the backs of underpaid employees, and, you fail to criticize the behavior of Bush-43, even after the evidence is presented to you right here in this thread. Hang your head in shame!

  23. ropelight says:
    8 August 2010 at 8:09 am

    aotc, I skip the wings and wait for an .89/lb special on chicken legs. Get several family packs and freeze all but one. Make my wings sauce and use it over grilled legs, more flavor, more meat, and for a lot less money. Football season will soon be upon us, time to stock up.

    Or, drop by the local Hooter’s on Wednesdays for the hump-day special.

    rope, i agree about grilled chicken being the best. but i prefer white meat over the dark.

    i must be a racist. lol

  24. Here is one more view of the criticism of Michele Obama’s vacation that I think has some merit:

    Simply put, there are some in this country who cannot stand the idea of women and people of color in positions of power, and there are cynical power mongers who don’t mind pushing their buttons to keep the political pot boiling. And they are not above exaggeration and outright lies to prove their nonexistent point.

    One small example: a newspaper headline reads, “Spanish Police Close Public Beach” for Michelle Obama. Well, no. The beach wasn’t closed. A 100-yard buffer was set up to provide protection for the family. In this age of terrorism, that seems to be quite a modest nod to security.

    Not all the criticism of the First Lady’s trip is malevolent, but you do not have to travel far into the depths of the conservative blogosphere to find evidence of extremely sexist and racist commentary about it.

    Could all of this have been avoided by choosing a “safer” location for a vacation? Perhaps, but I say give the First Family a break. The Drudge Report will keep lighting the match, Rush Limbaugh will keep fanning the flames, and maybe Sarah Palin will pour some gasoline (“Come to Alaska, Michelle!”), but Marbella-gate has all the earmarks of a mid-August media mob gone amok.

    Come September, it should all blow over. But when it does, just remember this: the folks who find fault with the cost of a small vacation in Spain are the same folks who helped turn the historic Bill Clinton surplus into the giant George Bush deficit. That’s one strange and expensive trip I for one don’t want to take again.

  25. i knew the race card was coming out. we can know they are out of actual debate material when they pull that.

    i think i already mentioned one post up i was racist. :)

    beat you to it perry.

  26. hey perry, i hate dark meat, i like white bread, i prefer white sugar.

    i loathe liberal ideology. does this make me racist?

    what exactly is the definition of racist anyhow perry? give us specific citations?

  27. assovereasy,
    Here is a citation that is a current example of racism in action, a very disturbing incident indeed:

    I. The Bedouin Village of al-Arakib

    In July 26, 2010, Israeli police armed with tear gas, a water canon, and two helicopters forced the 200 Bedouin residents of the southern Israeli village of al-Arakib out of their homes. Most of the furniture was then removed from the 45 buildings of the village and bulldozers were used to flatten the buildings. It is to be noted that the victims of this act are not residents of the Occupied Territories. They are non-Jewish citizens of the state of Israel.

    The news of these home demolitions made it to CNN in a short report entitled “Bedouins Evicted From Village in Southern Israel.” The Bedouin families explained that this was ancestral land on which they had lived for generations going back to the days of the Ottoman Empire. They even had their original land deeds. Israeli government officials explained that they did not care because they chose not to recognize the Bedouin claim. Why not? Well, all the land of Israel is reserved for the Jewish people and these folks are not Jewish. As far as police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld was concerned, that meant they were living there “illegally.” The government expects the Bedouins to move to “reservations” that have been set aside for them.

    ….

    III. What Does It All Mean?

    The incorporation of Israeli youth into the racist and destructive pattern of behavior exhibited in this incident is almost inevitable. You simply cannot raise generation after generation within an environment of officially sanctioned racism and not get many of the young seeking confirmation of their place in the community through unjust socio-political actions. We can expect to hear more about this sort of officially-organized youth thuggery in Israel. It is a logical tactic for the state to use, particularly at a time when the country is becoming increasingly criticized and isolated.

    This is one example, not meant to imply that all Israelis are racists, nor that racists exist only in Israel, as there are racists on the Palestinian side, and we have plenty of them here as well, globally really. Racism, wherever it exists, is a tragic outcome of unthinking, nasty, rotten people, in my view.

  28. aotc wrote:

    rope, i agree about grilled chicken being the best. but i prefer white meat over the dark.

    i must be a racist. lol

    Me, I prefer the dark meat; I must be a self-loathing white man.

  29. Perry wrote:

    This is one example, not meant to imply that all Israelis are racists, nor that racists exist only in Israel, as there are racists on the Palestinian side, and we have plenty of them here as well, globally really. Racism, wherever it exists, is a tragic outcome of unthinking, nasty, rotten people, in my view.

    I would guess, however, that you support the removal of all of the Jewish settlers from Judea and Samaria, even though the vast majority of them settled on previously barren land, evicting no one.

  30. Perry, the one thing the poison dwarf consistently demonstrates, and he conclusively demonstrates it nearly everyday, is his ability to spew sick and putrid bile. It’s what he does, it’s his indelible signature. And, it’s got him banned at other sites, but Dana allows him to continue polluting CSPT in the same way BP’s blow-out spewed crude into the Gulf.

    I criticised GWB strongly on several policy issues, among them were his collaboration with Ted Kennedy, his attempt to appoint an unqualified crony to the Supreme Court, his refusal to secure the border, his attempt to pass comprehensive immigration reform, and most importantly TARP. I quit the GOP over TARP. I don’t know how to be any more critical, and still be right with the law.

    And, yes I’m quite critical of Barack Obama. How could an honest man not be critical of someone who’s policies have undermined the foundations of our economy, passed ObamaCare against the will of the people, set-up the destruction our health care system, alienated our allies, and put our armed forces at a severe disadvantage with idiotic rules of engagement?

    Barack Obama promised that unemployment wouldn’t go above 8% if his Stimulus Bill passed, he promised ObamaCare wouldn’t raise costs by one dime, he promised that if you liked your current health care insurence you could keep it, he promised and he promised and he promised, but he’s yet to deliver, and all he can do is blame GWB. Obama is a miserable failure, a pretender, and a man who’s unfit to lead the nation.

    All he’s delivered is bail-outs, back-room deals like the corn-husker kickback and the Louisiana purchase, secret job offers to candidates to manipulate elections, Black Panther thugs going free after intimidating voters, coddled terrorists, and vacations, vacations, vacations, golf outings, and more vacations.

    Perry, where is your criticism of Barack Obama’s policies, his broken promises, his lies?

    Perry, your shame is yours alone, and the poison dwarf’s shame is his, and you both deserve every bit of the opprobrium you’ve brought on yourselves.

    BTW, if you’re looking for an example of racism, have a look at he video of those two Black Panthers intimidating voters at the polls, or preaching death to “crackers” and advocating genocide for white “cracker” babies. Then there’s the official government sanctioned example of racism in Eric Holder’s Department of Injustice refusing to prosecute blacks accused by whites of election law violations.

  31. These commies need to go and need to go NOW. Who on the left can defend these arrogant ass-holes? This is what is wrong with leftists.

    From the Telegraph.uk

    The First Lady, her youngest daughter Sasha, and their group of friends left the Spanish coast and travelled to Ronda for a day of sightseeing accompanied by their vast security escort in a 13 car motorcade.

    The group — which included a number of Mrs Obama’s friends – visited some of the town’s historic houses and later stopped for lunch at Del Escudero restaurant, set in a 19th century villa with whitewashed walls and red roof tiles located next to the bullring.

    While at the five-star luxury Villa Padierna, where the group have chosen to spend their mini-break, preparations were under way for Marbella’s event of the year – a star-studded charity gala hosted by Hollywood A-listers Antonio Banderas and Eva Longoria.

    Expectation was high that the First Lady would be the special guest at the event on Saturday night after she received a personal invitation from Ms Longoria, star of Desperate Housewives, who lent her support to Barack Obama during his presidential campaign.

    More than 400 tickets have been sold for the Starlite Gala at 1000 euros each, according to organisers, and reports suggested that this week another 200 people had applied for tickets and were on a waiting list after learning that Mrs Obama might be present.

    Among those clamouring to dine in the same room as the wife of the US President are a host of European celebrities and aristocrats, including Gunilla Gräfin von Bismarck, great-granddaughter of Otto, who has a home in Marbella.

    Also in attendance will be tennis player Boris Becker with his wife Lilly Kerssenberg, and bestselling spiritual guru Deepak Chopra, who had all flown in for the fund-raising Starlite gala in aid of children’s charities.

    One name on the guest list that could raise a few eyebrows among US diplomatic circles is Adnan Khashoggi.

    The Saudi Arabian businessman, 75, who made his name as an arms dealer in the 1980s, was linked to the Iran-Contra scandal in which the Reagan administration allegedly sanctioned the sale of weapons to Iran in breach of an international arms embargo.

    Another rumoured to be on the guest list is Sir Mark Thatcher, the disgraced son of the former Prime Minister, who has a home in the hills above Marbella.

    It could be one of the only opportunities for him to rub shoulders with such American elite as he has been banned from the US following his conviction in South Africa of unknowingly funding an attempted coup in Equatorial Guinea.

    If Mrs Obama does chose to attend the event it is unlikely that she will join guests to dance the night away at the after-party organised in Marbella’s premier nightclub, the Disco Olivia Valere.

    She has an invitation to lunch on Sunday with Spain’s King Juan Carlos and Queen Sofia at their summer palace on the island of Majorca before flying home to Washington DC.

  32. Dana: “I would guess, however, that you support the removal of all of the Jewish settlers from Judea and Samaria, even though the vast majority of them settled on previously barren land, evicting no one.”

    First of all, Dana, instead of condemning the actions in this anecdotal incident, you divert.

    Secondly, Palestinians would likely disagree with your characterization of Judea and Samaria as it was populated when the 1948 mandate came down upon them, or going back, to when the Zionist movement began in the late nineteenth century.

    Thirdly, you might want to peruse this 1946 map of Palestine, then express your thoughts here about it:

    Forthly, your anti-Palestinian attitude/agenda is quite transparent here!

  33. Hoagie, see the first part of my comment at 7:23am above. It may relate to Adnan Khashoggi’s presence, or it may not, but it is interesting collection of the Oil and Arms Power Elite seemingly assembled ad hoc.

  34. As expected, the roper comes forward once more with his personal attacks: “Perry, the one thing the poison dwarf consistently demonstrates, and he conclusively demonstrates it nearly everyday, is his ability to spew sick and putrid bile. It’s what he does, it’s his indelible signature. And, it’s got him banned at other sites, but Dana allows him to continue polluting CSPT in the same way BP’s blow-out spewed crude into the Gulf.”

    The statement speaks for the author of it, therefore I do not need to state the obvious about his character and mental status.

    I’ve been critical of Obama, like his Afghanistan war policy, his continuance of the Bush rendition, of his refusal to openly denounce waterbording torture, of his inability to meet his promise to close Gitmo, of his unwillingness so far to expand the stimulus, of his cave on the Sherrod case, …. So ropelight, your accusation was false, as usual!

    All your criticisms are the usual right wing lunatic fodder, memorized from the likes of Limbaugh, Beck, and the FoxNews cronies, so I’ve heard it all, and will continue to hear it I’m sure.

    Now go out back and milk your cow, roper! You need to give yourself some time to reinvigorate your rational mental processes, assuming that’s possible!!

  35. I noted that ropelight. Interesting how it just seems to fall that way with these pinko players, eh?

  36. Does anyone think that as Obama becomes less and less likely to be able to successfully position himself for reelection in 2012, that Hillary is more and more likely to position herself as an alternative to the weakened and fading Messiah?

    Now, wouldn’t that make for a lively Democrat Primary election season with House and Senate candidates, incumbents as well as challengers, scurring for endorsements and pay-offs from the varsity players?

    Could Michelle’s Spanish Adventure signal her initial attempt to grab the brass ring and become Hillary’s successor as the Secretary of State? Just askin?

  37. And now we have Hoagie comes along with his hypocrisy, dreamed up because he has too much idle time now: “These commies need to go and need to go NOW. Who on the left can defend these arrogant ass-holes? This is what is wrong with leftists.”

    So, Commies and ass-holes are the Obamas, is that it? If so, I guess you would have to classify Reagan, Bush-41, Clinton, and Bush-43 the same way. Oh no, I understand, it has to be only Clinton and Obama! Do I have that right, John?

    This kind of adulation/royalty-like thingie has been standard practice for heads of state and their families for a long time, so why suddenly all the attention from the likes of you, John? Hypocrisy again, that’s all it is!

    Not only all the above, but at the moment you have erected a straw man, because Mrs Obama has not even accepted the invitation to attend. I hope she does, because it is for a good cause. Moreover, we should be complimented that such a fuss is happening over our First Lady.

    Note also this, from your citation:

    … – a star-studded charity gala hosted by Hollywood A-listers Antonio Banderas and Eva Longoria.

    Expectation was high that the First Lady would be the special guest at the event on Saturday night after she received a personal invitation from Ms Longoria, star of Desperate Housewives, who lent her support to Barack Obama during his presidential campaign.

    More than 400 tickets have been sold for the Starlite Gala at 1000 euros each, according to organisers, and reports suggested that this week another 200 people had applied for tickets and were on a waiting list after learning that Mrs Obama might be present.

    This kind of event happens all the time, an opportunity for the elite to give back in a small way, while making a party night out of it, so to select out the First Lady, who might not even attend, is a real long strrrrrreeeeettttttch, all to make a right wing ideological/political hypocritical point. This is not convincing at all, John, from someone who otherwise is an advocate for elites, as long as they are righties!!!

  38. Perry, a dispicible little worm like you brings up the topic of character? Well, now, that’s rather bold and more than a bit arrogant as well. Granted that you are a character, but that doesn’t mean you have character, in fact you’ve demonstrated the absence of character so often and with such finality as to make such a claim laughable on it’s face.

    A recent example is your dishonest claim that I made false accusations, that’s your bailiwick Perry, and your ongoing shame. I asked where were your criticisms of Obama, just as you asked where were my criticisms of Bush-43. Perry, your hate blinds you to the hypocrisy of your own duplicity.

    As for milking a cow, where in the world did that come from? I’ve never owned a cow, or milked one in my life and I don’t expect to encounter either opportunity anytime in the foreseeable future. Although I’d like to give milking a try, it can’t be all that difficult. And, my mental processes are a lot better than yours. Put some money on the table and take your chances, dumbo. I already caught you trying to claim phony credentials, and you admitted it.

  39. The roper asks:“Does anyone think that as Obama becomes less and less likely to be able to successfully position himself for reelection in 2012, that Hillary is more and more likely to position herself as an alternative to the weakened and fading Messiah? “

    Since there are a little less than 2.5 years to go, who can predict? We can only wish! At the equivalent time prior to November 2008, Obama was an almost unknown Junior Senator from IL. Given the volatility of our politics and economics, anything can happen!

    I am hoping that Obama’s policy initiatives are successful, which would then be not only good for the country, but also good enough for his reelection to a second term.

    Moreover, I would like to see it be an Obama/Hillary ticket in 2012, followed by having Hillary for President in 2016. How about a Hillary/Michelle ticket then, following Michelle’s Secretary of State term 2012-2016? They are two very intelligent and saavy women. Interesting thoughts!

  40. The roper does it again: “Perry, a dispicible little worm like you brings up the topic of character?”

    Can’t resist, can you roper? That says it all, about you. And there’s a lot more where that came from, as we’ve frequently seen, an obvious sign of weak debating skills.

  41. assovertincups says:
    8 August 2010 at 7:32 am (Edit)
    as i recall obama told people they ought not spend their money on a vegas vacation some time back.

    ouch.

    Nevada politicians slam Obama’s Vegas comment
    Nevada politicians, including Democratic Sen. Harry Reid, took umbrage at President Obama’s comments about Las Vegas at a town hall meeting this week.

    By Michael B. Farrell, Staff writer / February 3, 2010
    San Francisco
    When President Obama travels to Nevada later this month to stump for embattled Senate majority leader Harry Reid, he’s likely to get the cold shoulder in Las Vegas.

    Obama rubbed quite a few Nevadans the wrong way Tuesday when he suggested rolling the dice on the Vegas Strip wasn’t the wisest move “when you’re trying to save for college. You prioritize. You make tough choices. It’s time your government did the same.”
    Perhaps that’s not such bad advice. After all, who would suggest gambling with your college tuition?

    But the comment didn’t sit well in a city that banks on tourists coming to “blow a bunch of cash,” as Obama put it at a New Hampshire town hall meeting. Nevada has the second highest unemployment rate in the country (13 percent) and the highest foreclosure rate. The gaming and convention industries have been hit hard, too.Annual gaming revenues are down 11 percent overall, although the Las Vegas Review-Journal recently reported that casinos saw an increase in November for the first time since December 2007, with winnings totaling $873.2 million.

    Senator Reid, who faces a tough reelection bid and sagging ratings, criticized the comment.

    Lot more here:

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2010/0203/Nevada-politicians-slam-Obama-s-Vegas-comment

  42. assovertincups says:
    8 August 2010 at 10:05 am (Edit)
    i knew the race card was coming out. we can know they are out of actual debate material when they pull that.

    i think i already mentioned one post up i was racist.

    beat you to it perry.

    Perry always pulls the Race Card along with jealousy and envy. He’s probably pissed off he wasn’t invited.

  43. Simply put, there are some in this country who cannot stand the idea of women and people of color in positions of power, and there are cynical power mongers who don’t mind pushing their buttons to keep the political pot boiling. And they are not above exaggeration and outright lies to prove their nonexistent point.

    OMG! Can we stop belittling women and people of color by making up easy-outs for them instead of respecting them enough to judge them by their actions and deeds, like we do everyone else? Let’s treat them like adults, shall we, rather than children who need their noses wiped by white liberal guilt.

  44. Don’t you think this is good advice, Yorkshire?

    Obama rubbed quite a few Nevadans the wrong way Tuesday when he suggested rolling the dice on the Vegas Strip wasn’t the wisest move “when you’re trying to save for college. You prioritize. You make tough choices. It’s time your government did the same.

    The reaction of the Nevadans to this advice is like the little kid who is told he can’t have any candy now because it will spoil his/her meal. Sound familiar?

    I look on Obama’s advice as good leadership. Certainly he knew it wouldn’t sit well with some people. The same with parents and their disappointed/angry kids!

  45. You prioritize. You make tough choices. It’s time your government did the same.

    You really don’t see the hypocrisy of the President making this statement and the lavish trip Mrs. O is currently on?

    *shakes head in utter disbelief*

  46. Perry:
    The reaction of the Nevadans to this advice is like the little kid who is told he can’t have any candy now because it will spoil his/her meal. Sound familiar?

    I look on Obama’s advice as good leadership. Certainly he knew it wouldn’t sit well with some people. The same with parents and their disappointed/angry kids!

    You are so tone deaf you can’t put the Spanish trip and Las Vegas advice together and see the GIANT IRONY

  47. Yorkshire:

    Yes, I definitely think there is a racial element to some of Obama’s opponents. Look at the signs on display by some TEA Baggers for the evidence. Based on the continuing racist strain in our culture, I would guess that those people are members of the opposition with that in mind.

    How many photos would you like me to display for you, Yorkshire?

    Would you display a sign like this?

  48. “How many photos would you like me to display for you, Yorkshire?”

    I don’t know about Yorkshire, but I’d need about twenty more different signs before I would believe you. So, you got’em? Let’s see’em.

  49. other Dana:“You really don’t see the hypocrisy of the President making this statement and the lavish trip Mrs. O is currently on?”

    You might have missed it, but I have said twice already that I think Mrs Obama has not used good judgment in taking this vacation.

    That said, she is there, so I hope she makes the best of it.

    Were you critical of the Bushes, in the wake of the 9/11, and in the midst of one then two wars, for taking so many vacations?

    I never criticized the Bushes re vacation, but I have drawn the contrast between Bushes’ and Obamas’ vacations and golf, when hypocritical righties attempt to make an issue of the Obamas, forgetting or unaware of the Bushes’ vacation/golf habits.

    Any President, regardless of party, being in the hot seat under constant pressure, working long hours, deserves vacation and golf time.

  50. BTW, when you call teapartiers teabaggers you show you are a homophobic sexist bigot. You probibly are a racist too since you seem to dwell on people’s race. You really need to focus on Obama’s commie philosophy rather than the poor guys race. After all, being half black dosen’t make him anti-American, being a damn commie does.

  51. “Any President, regardless of party, being in the hot seat under constant pressure, working long hours, deserves vacation and golf time.” True. And this particular President deserves a PERMANENT vacation.

  52. Worst president evah! Even Pho cites him as a war criminal and a mass murderer. He makes the Rosenbergs look like patriots.

  53. Hoagie: “I don’t know about Yorkshire, but I’d need about twenty more different signs before I would believe you.”

    Right John. Mine was a rhetorical question. You’ve seen it all on TV, so I would be wasting my time. But make no mistake, I could easily come up with 20.

    “BTW, when you call teapartiers teabaggers you show you are a homophobic sexist bigot.”

    BS! You know as well as I that both names have been used, by the TEA Baggers/TEA Partiers themselves. Did you have your breakfast this morning? You’ve got to cut out drinking that unsweetened grapefruit juice! :)

    “You really need to focus on Obama’s commie philosophy rather than the poor guys race.”

    And again, since I asked this before, just what policies of Obama’s are “commie”, and how so. I told you earlier that you need to round up your news knowledge with The News Hour on PBS, and Diane Rehm on NPR. You also need to start a search for another business. Your nerves can’t take all this free time, it seems.

  54. “Which progressive site did you steal those photos from, Perry?”

    “A picture is worth a thousand words”, right Hitchcock?

    Google “Tea Party Racists” and you’ll find more photos than you would ever want.

    Only a fool would claim that there is not a racial element in the TEA Party organizations, and worse.

  55. “And again, since I asked this before, just what policies of Obama’s are “commie”, and how so.’

    Now THAT is a retorical question. Exactly which policy of Obama’s ISIN’T commie? Taking over whole industries? Forcing up energy costs while imposing arbitrary moratoriums? Appointing cronies and pinkos “czars”? Taking over our choice in health care? Murdering innocent Arab civilians with drones? Torturing innocent Moslems at GITMO? Raising our taxes to pay off his Chicago buddies and labor union thugs? Stealing my money to pay his supporters mortgages and buy them new cars? please, Perry, tell me when to stop. And please don’t try to slime and belittle me cause your guy is a pinko trader to America and you agree with him. This guy and his commie cronies keep going and we’ll end up in another civil war. Or is that what you guys are aiming for?

  56. No, Perry, which progressive site did you steal those photos from? You never attributed the photos to anywhere. It is your responsibility to produce not someone else’s responsibility to do your research for you. And proper attribution to someone else’s work is required to maintain integrity.

  57. Unlike you liberals I don’t have a lot of “free time”. I really don’t have the time to sit around and pontificate on how to control other people’s lives. See, I co-sponsor a Meals-on-Wheels out of my Club. I actually go out and help the needy, not try and force you to. I cook and package meals twice a week and deliver meals once a week. Today however, I’m watching the Philly’s kick the shit out of the Mets. Yea, today I’m off.

  58. (holy crap perry, can you use the exclamation point a little more judiciously? all the exclamation points make you appear like a chipmunk on crack. )

    Perry says:
    8 August 2010 at 2:36 pm

    Hoagie: “I don’t know about Yorkshire, but I’d need about twenty more different signs before I would believe you.”

    Right John. Mine was a rhetorical question. You’ve seen it all on TV, so I would be wasting my time. But make no mistake, I could easily come up with 20.

    sooo… others have to cough up citations, you just make anecdotal remarks and tell us to pound salt.

    and by the way mr exclamation, i asked for a definition of racism, not examples. i want the term defined by you, you know, [i want you to state the rules by which you determine if something is racist or someone is racist. or is the definition just like all your other liberal rules and open to what each person (liberal persons, naturally) thinks it is?

  59. Perry Baiting:
    How many photos would you like me to display for you, Yorkshire?

    Would you display a sign like this?

    Just post away until your heart’s content.

  60. Ridiculous! Use your dictionary, assover!

    Simply put, if you use race in your decision making process, you are a racist. Probably most of us are. So then it boils down to a difference in degree. For example, if you decide not to converse with a person at a cocktail party because he/she is a different race, that is bad enough, but not as bad as if you parade around with a sign like the two I displayed earlier.

    Hope that helps!

    PS: Yes, I am very fond of using exclamation points to add emphasis to a statement. Besides, it drives Hitchcock nuts! :) You could call that one of my stylistic trade marks.

    One of yours is to not capitalize the word at the beginning of a sentence. Go figure!

  61. Yorkshire: “Just post away until your heart’s content.”

    Google is spelled G-O-O-G-L-E. Then hit enter. Hope that helps!

  62. You criticize the Obama’s, but fail to criticize the behavior of the outrageous pay and life style of the rich and famous, whose wealth is acquired on the backs of underpaid employees,

    As of 2004, Walmart employees were so badly paid that they needed public welfare and food stamps to get by. This cost California alone $86 million of taxpayer funds. To subsidise Walmart’s pay policies.

    The Waltons are among the richest families in America.

    Wingnuts don’t say anything about this.

  63. These commies need to go and need to go NOW

    Let’s see – they and their friends are paying for a luxury vacataion – and yet they’re commies…?

    Idiot.

  64. Perry says:
    8 August 2010 at 2:07 pm (Edit)
    How many photos would you like me to display for you, Yorkshire?

    Would you display a sign like this?

    Perry notes what I said in reply:

    Perry says:
    8 August 2010 at 3:18 pm (Edit)
    Yorkshire: “Just post away until your heart’s content.”

    Google is spelled G-O-O-G-L-E. Then hit enter. Hope that helps!

    Now Perry backs out of doing the work he said he would do. Do your own work Perry.

  65. Perry, you have shown several times on this thread alone that you hold us to much higher standards than you hold yourself to. You have repeatedly refused to give out your source while repeatedly demanding citations from all conservatives “or admit they’re liars”. That’s what is called hypocritical on your part.

  66. Yorkshire: “Just post away until your heart’s content.”

    Google is spelled G-O-O-G-L-E. Then hit enter. Hope that helps!

    Regarding the video you posted — very interesting. It demonstrates that African-Americans have come a long way, such that a few have embraced a more Conservative ideology, with all the stereotypes which had in the past been expressed by white Conservatives. That’s fine, but they should be questioned as any ideologue should be. And btw, just like the NAACP at first, I think they have/had the Shirley Sherrod case wrong, although it is not clear to me when this video was made relative to the Sherrod misfire by the FoxNews ideologues.

    I’m gone!

  67. Hitchcock: If you want the source for the photos, right click them, or didn’t you know that? I suspect you did know!

  68. You’re the idiot, idiot. Commies don’t practice communism, the force it upon others. Isn’t Castro a commie? Isin’t Castro a millionaire? Didn’t Stalin and Breshnev own Dacha’s?

    BTW, their “friends” aren’t paying for their vacation, we are you dope. Their friends didn’t fuel up the plane or pay for Secret Service or anything else, we did you fool. That’s a bald faced lie meant to deflect criticism over the event. These pinko creeps wouldn’t pay for a cup of coffee with their own money.

    Freekin’ Mets are catching up. damn.

  69. BTW Pho, I read your study by UC Berkely and am shocked, shocked , I say. I think that in light of these findings Wal-Mart should be forced to cease and desist all operations in California, close all locations and exit the state. That would teach those lousey good for nothing Walton’s wouldn’t it? Then California can subsitize 100% of the ex-employees income thereby creating a whole new sector of Democrat voters and commie thugs thus moving us one step closer to your beloved Marxist utopia and third world status for America which you seem to crave so much.

  70. BTW Pho, I read your study by UC Berkely and am shocked, shocked , I say.

    Why? We know you enjoy kissing the ass of the rich.

    You’re a natural-born serf.

  71. And we also know you enjoy finding ways of stealing what other people earned.

    Guess that would make you a naturaal born thief, right?

  72. Well, I work for a living, and help make my country a better place for doing so. What is it the hell you do again?

  73. I think Megan McCardle sums it up accurately:

    …while there’s nothing actually wrong with it, it’s really quite unbelievably politically stupid. When we’re in the middle of the worst recession in living memory, it’s not a good idea to take a luxury vacation that most of your countrymen could never possibly afford in the best of times, at considerable taxpayer expense for the security, in a foreign country. Whether or not people should resent it, they will, and his party’s already in big enough trouble without reinforcing the Red State sense that this administration is full of out-of-touch elites. I’m astonished that Obama’s advisors gave this trip the green light.

    I also think that the advisors’s greenlighting of this trip again reveals their lack of experience and incredible tone-deafness to the reality of the average American.

  74. While the Economy Is Going To Hell:

    Fed set to downgrade outlook for US
    By James Politi in Washington

    Published: August 8 2010 19:15 | Last updated: August 8 2010 19:15

    The Federal Reserve is set to downgrade its assessment of US economic prospects when it meets on Tuesday to discuss ways to reboot the flagging recovery.

    Faced with weak economic data and rising fears of a double-dip recession, the Federal Open Market Committee is likely to ensure its policy is not constraining growth and to use its statement to signal greater concern about the economy. It is, however, unlikely to agree big new steps to boost growth.

    More bad news at the link:

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/dedcb986-a316-11df-8cf4-00144feabdc0.html

    And bad news lead stories on Drudge:

    Gazpacho, turbot, veal and ratatouille with the king…

    Lavish Obama vacation in time of economic turmoil raises eyebrows…

    BAKER: ‘Leaves taxpayers with hefty bill’…

    While president preaches sacrifice, his family frolics in Spain…

    Hollywood star-studded gala at first lady’s lux delux hotel…

    Trip costing U.S. taxpayers $75k a day…

  75. Yorkshire: “While the Economy Is Going To Hell:”

    The blame game again, and refusal by the Repubs to take accountability, during Bush-43, and by obstructing in the Senate. Shame on your party for being so irresponsible!

  76. From York’s list above:

    The Age, by Peter Nicholas and Katherine Skiba, August 8, 2010.

    “While Obama Preaches Sacrifice, his Family Frolics in Spain”

    “AS THE US economy endures high unemployment and a jittery stock market, President Barack Obama has preached sacrifice and fiscal discipline. But the pictures coming out of a sun-splashed Spanish resort may be sending a different message.

    First lady Michelle Obama is in the midst of a five-day trip to a luxury resort along with a handful of friends, her younger daughter, aides and Secret Service. Her office said the Obamas would pay for personal expenses, but would not reveal the taxpayer cost for the government employees.

    Elected officials – Democrats and Republicans – were reluctant to weigh in, not wanting to appear critical of the President’s wife. But the trip provided fodder for television news shows, talk-show hosts and bloggers. Critics portrayed the foreign getaway as tone-deaf to the deep economic anxiety back home. Every first family takes vacations: the criticism aimed at Mrs Obama is that she chose to visit a foreign country rather than remain in the US and support its fragile economy.”

  77. Perry says:
    8 August 2010 at 11:03 pm (Edit)
    Yorkshire: “While the Economy Is Going To Hell:”

    The blame game again, and refusal by the Repubs to take accountability, during Bush-43, and by obstructing in the Senate. Shame on your party for being so irresponsible!

    And almost four years of a Democratic Congress has produced what???? Giant Deficits. And you would call the last four years responsible for the Dem Congress????? I think the Dems get to wear the irresponsible crown here.

  78. So this is one more example of the righties’ hypocritically attacking the President whom they appear to despise. Or are their racist motives at play here, where it grinds away to see a black family living high on the hog, as if they don’t deserve to?

    Personally, I don’t care where Michelle Obama and her brood vacation, they could go to the Moon for all I care. But the above is pure slander, and is beneath you, Perry. I think an apology is in order!

  79. The Waltons are among the richest families in America.

    Wingnuts don’t say anything about this.

    The Walton family has made their money honestly, and with no help from the government. What’s your point?

  80. Moreover, I would like to see it be an Obama/Hillary ticket in 2012, followed by having Hillary for President in 2016. How about a Hillary/Michelle ticket then, following Michelle’s Secretary of State term 2012-2016? They are two very intelligent and saavy women. Interesting thoughts!

    Speaking of Micheles, I’d rather see a Palin/Michele Bachmann ticket. At least they’d stop wasting so much gov’t money and restore fiscal sanity!

  81. Perry, you find ONE sign that compares Obama to a lion, and that’s racism??? If they’d compared him to a monkey, you might be on to something, but they didn’t.

  82. Eric: “But the above is pure slander, and is beneath you, Perry. I think an apology is in order!”

    It was a question, Eric, not a statement, therefore no apology required.

    “The Walton family has made their money honestly, and with no help from the government. What’s your point?”

    Don’t agree at all. They have made their money on the backs of poor people who are so hard up for a job that they are willing to work at close to slave wages. Their success is partly due to the excesses built in to our skewed system of pay for performance. They have also exploited cheap overseas labor working under substandard working conditions. On the other hand, their marketing plans and process efficiencies are uniquely commendable. Thus, I am ambivalent about WalMart.

  83. Eric: “Speaking of Micheles, I’d rather see a Palin/Michele Bachmann ticket.”

    OMG!!! You were kidding, weren’t you Eric???

  84. But I have to wonder why Perry is so sexist as to think a two-woman ticket is bad.

    Two girls, no sanity.

  85. Don’t agree at all. They have made their money on the backs of poor people who are so hard up for a job that they are willing to work at close to slave wages.

    I worked at Target for a while, got paid about the same, and at no point felt I was being “Exploited”. It was an honest job with honest pay (and medical benefits to boot).

  86. Two girls, no sanity.

    Fiscal sanity is more like it, in noted contrast to the current admin.

    PS What’s with the “Girl” thing? These are grown women, for God’s sake! I’d love to see what they’d say on Pandagon at such a sexist statement.

  87. Their success is partly due to the excesses built in to our skewed system of pay for performance. They have also exploited cheap overseas labor working under substandard working conditions. On the other hand, their marketing plans and process efficiencies are uniquely commendable. Thus, I am ambivalent about WalMart.

    PS Personally, I don’t shop at Wal-Mart. I prefer Target instead, plus there’s a lot more Targets that Wal-Mats in MLPS. Still, their ultra low prices are a definite benefit to poor people and people on a fixed income, so they definitely do some good.

  88. Eric, “feminists” hate Republican women, so Republican women don’t count as women. “Feminists” also covered for the Sexual Predator in the White House from 1993 to 2000 because “their guy” was in power. A bunch of hypocrites, the Pandagon types.

  89. Hitchcock: “But I have to wonder why Perry is so sexist as to think a two-woman ticket is bad.”

    You didn’t notice: I said Obama/Hillary Clinton for 2012, then Hillary/Michelle for 2016, leading to Michelle/? for 2020.

    So you like that, right?

    Gotta go!

  90. “Two girls, no sanity.”

    PS What’s with the “Girl” thing?

    Things just whoosh right over your head, don’t they Eric? It must be hell stumbling through life without a clue.

  91. Palin/Bachman would be a hoot. They could be so easily defeated, just by putting microphones in front of them. Unfortunately, the campaign fun wouldn’t last. Palin would quit half way through, and Bachman would freak out after she noticed her Secret Service detail following her.

  92. You seem to forget, naggy, that only 21 percent of the population is liberal while 42 percent of the population is conservative. You also forget that a smaller percentage of Americans call themselves liberal than consider themselves supportive of the TEA Party movement.

  93. You seem to forget, naggy, that only 21 percent of the population is liberal while 42 percent of the population is conservative.

    Remind me again – who was elected President in 2008?

  94. NZT, since you have such poor memory, I’ll help you out. I noted previously that the demographics have shifted. In 2008, the demographics were 37/37/22 Conservative/Moderate/Liberal, moving to 40/36/21 in 2009 and 42/35/20 (I overstated the liberal position in my above comment) in 2010. In 2008, a large percentage of moderates joined with the liberals to elect the ultra-liberal president we now have. Many of those moderates now have “buyer’s remorse” for that decision. And the percentage of conservatives has taken a decided jump while moderates and liberals have fallen off.

    As I also stated previously, Obama had a “mandate” of 7.3 percent in the 2008 elections. Missouri went with McCain by a fraction of a percentage point over Obama. But Missouri sent out a mandate of 42.2 percent in opposition to ObamaCare just this past week.

    The majority of voters nationwide want ObamaCare repealed. The majority of voters nationwide oppose Obama’s lawsuit against Arizona. The majority of voters nationwide oppose Obama’s off-shore drilling moratorium. The majority of voters nationwide oppose tax increases, Crap-n-Tax, Card Check, and the list goes on.

    The Center for Politics predicts, I believe conservatively, Republican gains of 7 Senate seats, 37 House seats, and 6 or 7 Governorships, gains which are clearly larger than “mid-term shift” standards.

    RealClearPolitics, a poll conglomeration, showed Generic Democrats holding a 13.4 point edge over Republicans on 26Jan09. It shows Republicans holding a 6.0 point edge now, for a 19.6 point swing favoring Republicans in 20 months.

  95. Hitchcock: “The majority of voters nationwide want ObamaCare repealed. The majority of voters nationwide oppose Obama’s lawsuit against Arizona. The majority of voters nationwide oppose Obama’s off-shore drilling moratorium. The majority of voters nationwide oppose tax increases, Crap-n-Tax, Card Check, and the list goes on.”

    You have your nerve to write about majorities, when your party will not let the majority rule in the Senate. So now I see, for you it just depends on selecting the right majority in an effort to further your cause. And you think that that represents principled behavior? No it is not, which really, really stinks!!

  96. your party will not let the majority rule in the Senate. So now I see, for you it just depends on selecting the right majority in an effort to further your cause.

    You mean the “right” majority, such as We The People? You’re pulling for the Aristocracy Class in opposition to the Country Class? Whatever happened to “the consent of the governed?” I mean, since the governed are shouting at the Aristocracy Class “NO!!!” while the Aristocracy Class plugs its ears and pushes on anyway.

  97. While it’s true Bush spent a lot of days on vacation, there is no comparison between a ranch in West Texas with he and his wife v. one of the most expensive resort areas of Spain, the First Lady, 40 of her friends, and personnel on top of that.

    Hey, Dana, remember what I said about this blog repeating bullshit Beck talking points, only to have them always pan out as crap later on?

    Well, guess what

    Michelle Obama returned to Washington on Sunday from five days on Spain’s Mediterranean coast, taking a mother-daughter trip with Sasha, 9, that stirred controversy. A White House source told me, however, that Mrs. Obama traveled to Spain to help a grieving friend deal with the death of her father.
    [...]
    Mrs. Obama met two friends in Spain, who flew there on their own. The three women were joined by a total of four daughters. (Some news outlets reported Mrs. Obama was on vacation with 40 friends; that was not true.)

    One of the women is a longtime Obama friend, Anita Blanchard, an obstetrician who delivered Sasha and big sister Malia, 12. Her husband is Marty Nesbitt, a close Obama friend and treasurer of Obama’s presidential campaign fund.

    A White House source told me the Mrs. Obama was not able to attend the funeral for Blanchard’s father at the beginning of July. Blanchard, who was taking her daughter on a promised trip to Spain, asked the first lady and Sasha to come to Spain with her. (Malia is at overnight camp.) “She felt it was important as a dear friend to do this,” I was told.

    Mrs. Obama and her friends paid for their hotel rooms and other personal expenses. All first ladies, however, get 24-hour security and transportation on military aircraft. When Mrs. Obama flies on personal business, she pays what amounts to a first-class fare, but taxpayers pick up most of the overhead costs for the plane and security.

    A reason Mrs. Obama stayed at the ritzy Villa Padierna in Marbella was security, I was told. Agents were able to secure the lush resort and a nearby beach.

  98. Eric says:
    9 August 2010 at 1:05 pm (Edit)
    Two girls, no sanity.

    Fiscal sanity is more like it, in noted contrast to the current admin.

    PS What’s with the “Girl” thing? These are grown women, for God’s sake! I’d love to see what they’d say on Pandagon at such a sexist statement.

    They think they’re comparing them to the two toddler boys in the WH

  99. Another stupid, waste of time link from Pho. Must be nice to have all day to look up this crap.

    Anyway, now it should be obvious why I rarely check out your links.

  100. You have your nerve to write about majorities, when your party will not let the majority rule in the Senate.

    You’ve been whining about this forever, Perry. Just give it a rest. The filibuster is there, is a longtime Senate tradition, and if your “Majority” doesn’t like it, they should vote to get rid of it. But they won’t, cause they know someday they’ll be back in the minority and will want to use it for themselves.

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