Sadly, there’s no cure for stupid

From Lori Ziganto on Snark and Boobs:

We’re Here, We’re Queer and We’re in Abject Denial

My latest post for NewsReal:

Earlier this week, a group called Queers Against Israeli Apartheid boasted about the fact that the Pride Toronto organizers had voted to reverse a decision which would now let them march in the Gay Pride parade. They proudly touted it as a blow against censorship and then issued this statement:

“This is a victory for the Palestine solidarity movement, which has faced censorship and bullying tactics from the Israel lobby for far too long,” says Tim McCaskell, a member of Queers Against Israeli Apartheid. “The Israel lobby learned a tough lesson today about our community’s proud history of standing up to censorship and human rights abuses.”

Proud history of standing up to censorship and human rights abuses? Yeah, you know who actually does do that? Israel. Do you know who would want to punish you, by death, for being gay? Palestine.

Not only does this group try to equate Israel with apartheid, which is odious in and of itself, but they are either grossly intellectually dishonest or they are in abject denial. They are embracing a culture that goes against our very core principles as human beings. They are embracing a culture that considers women as chattel and non-human. They want to be “inclusive”, and defend no less, a country that kills people — for being gay. They are marching to show pride so that gay people in the West don’t have to stay in the closet longer than desired. Yet, they are supporting Palestine, where they would need to stay in a steel-encased panic room, forever.

They are vilifying the one country in the middle east that truly embraces diversity by believing in Freedom; Israel.  The Judeo-Christian ethic has done the most good in the World. Always has and always will. The Judeo-Christian ideals of freedom and respect for the individual rights of men – and women, gay or straight, Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Buddhist – all are welcome in Israel.

More at the link. But Miss Ziganto points out what everyone ought to know: if you are openly gay in the Muslim areas of the Middle East, you are risking jail or even execution

If you are a homosexual living in the Muslim Middle East, the smartest thing you can do is emigrate; the safest place for you to be in the Middle East is in Israel.

The useful idiots aligning with Palestine don’t even realize that Hamas, a terrorist organization intent on “wiping Israel off the map“, is also oppressing some of its own people, particularly women and homosexuals. But, see, this doesn’t matter to them. Hamas is anti-Israel and anti-America. This is all that matters. Because George Bush. And evil capitalist America. They are willing to turn a blind eye to true oppression and homophobia so rampant that it results in bloodshed and death, as long as it fits with their preferred global agenda.

Perhaps they should celebrate diversity by being, you know, honest. And by truly being open-minded, letting themselves out of their ideological closets.

I have to admit it: sometimes the positions of our friends on the left baffle me. I get that they sympathize with the Palestinians, and think that Israel is being a bad ol’ bully, and I understand that a lot of people just naturally sympathize with the underdog. But to identify yourself as “queer,” and somehow being “queer” leads you to support the Palestinians, is just unfathomable: they really have to know what the Palestinians, and what all of the Muslim-ruled states in the Middle East, would do to them as self-identified “queers.” If being gay is how they identify themselves, rather than OK, that’s part of who I am, then it is wholly irrational to march in support of the people who would jail or kill you; it’s like seeing a “Jews for Hitler” march.

I went to the Queers Against Israeli Apartheid website and copied their banner, and their slogan: “We Stand With Queers in Palestine.” Don’t they realize that if they are standing with homosexuals in Palestine, they are standing, hiding really, deep within the closet?

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¹ – The Sunday Times of London reported, in 2007, that an Iranian MP, Mohsen Yahyavi, said that homosexuals “deserve to be executed or tortured and possibly both.” The link above is to a story documenting the execution of two Iranian teenaged boys for homosexual activity.

5 Comments

  1. Israel is actually a very gay friendly country. Israeli intelligence actually recruits gay Palestinians and Arabs to work for them offering them safe harbor. Israel never enforced sodomy laws and same-sex relations were legalized in 1988. Israel recognizes foreign gay marriages and allows legal cohabitation as there is no civil marriage laws. Gays can legally adopt their partner’s children. Openly serving in the military is allowed. So in short Israel is easily the most pro-gay country in the Middle East by a long slide.

    What a batshit group. I am on the Left and I am disgusted by the hypocrisy of others on the Left that defend oppressive regimes and cultures in the name of diversity. This is an increasing problem with Leftists and I have seen this relativistic worldview seep onto the conservative side but there are far more of them on the Left.

  2. @Tony Thomas: Hell, Israel’s more pro-gay than America, the crazy Orthodox rabbinate notwithstanding.

    What I think you don’t understand is that it’s possible to oppose Israel’s policies with respect to the Palestinians but still support their right to exist. Nor is opposing Israel’s treatment of the occupied territories the same thing as saying that Palestinian authorities have all the right ideas for everyone over there. The Israel/Palestine situation isn’t a case of two sides shouting at each other but a cacaphony of voices from all over a spectrum shouting about this and that. It’s wrong to classify a “we oppose Israeli apartheid” group as opposed to Israel in its entirety without further evidence.

  3. Exactly, Jeff!

    Dana: “I went to the Queers Against Israeli Apartheid website and copied their banner, and their slogan: “We Stand With Queers in Palestine.” Don’t they realize that if they are standing with homosexuals in Palestine, they are standing, hiding really, deep within the closet?”

    Really, Dana, and you know this, for a fact?

    What do we have here? A group of gays comes out with an anti-Israeli position, alleging Israeli apartheid behavior. Dana translates this into a pro-Palestinian position, then makes note of Hamas’ alleged position against gay rights. I say alleged, because I don’t really know, and I doubt that Dana does either. From a label comes a stereotype, with no evidence!

    And then we must recall Israeli Orthodox Jews being against homosexuality, and American Christian fundamentalists and Catholics as well. Does this translate into endangering homosexuals? Well sometimes, but not in general, although it is a pretty nasty anti-Libertarian position. Do you support your church’s anti-homosexuality doctrine, Dana?

    And then Dana comes up with this really silly statement: “If you are a homosexual living in the Muslim Middle East, the smartest thing you can do is emigrate; the safest place for you to be in the Middle East is in Israel.”

    Right, like Israel is about to accept homosexual Muslim immigrants! What?

    Instead of focusing on issues, Dana focuses on labels, as many do, which ends up as a way to mask the issue. Moreover, he makes assumptions for which he gives no evidence.

    Thus, of course it is perfectly OK for a gay group to oppose an Israeli policy, while perhaps some other time stating their opposition to the behavior of some Muslim nations and groups on their anti-homosexual policies. Dana apparently does not understand this, while I note that his own church has an anti-homosexual behavior position, yet is pro-Israel. People are complex, and confusing!

    When dealing with labels instead of issues, assumptions, complexities, and confusions abound all the more.

  4. If you are a homosexual living in the Muslim Middle East, the smartest thing you can do is emigrate; the safest place for you to be in the Middle East is in Israel.

    I agree that Israel treats gay people better, but Turkey is a Muslim country with at least a reasonable record on gay rights: gay sex is legal, and there’s a vibrant gay scene in Istanbul.

    As is the case in many countries, urban areas tend to be more tolerant than rural areas; I’d not want to be gay in Kona, but the big cities are fine.

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