Comments on: Muslim Americans for Barack Hussein Obama http://commonsensepoliticalthought.com/?p=2458 President Bush and the Republicans spent way, way, way too much money, but when it comes to spending, they were bush leaguers — pun intended — compared to President Obama and the Democrats. Thu, 09 Sep 2010 08:20:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: eric http://commonsensepoliticalthought.com/?p=2458#comment-180167 eric Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:28:58 +0000 http://commonsensepoliticalthought.com/?p=2458#comment-180167 <blockquote># Provide prayer areas suitable for Salah and Jummah</blockquote> No thanks. We already had one Jimmah (Carter), and that was enough!

# Provide prayer areas suitable for Salah and Jummah

No thanks. We already had one Jimmah (Carter), and that was enough!

]]> By: Dana Pico http://commonsensepoliticalthought.com/?p=2458#comment-180165 Dana Pico Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:20:19 +0000 http://commonsensepoliticalthought.com/?p=2458#comment-180165 Aphrael: What would you prefer, a society which does not depend on personal identification? I suppose that would have worked well enough in the Old West, with a (mostly) cash and barter economy, and you where you didn't need a license to drive a buckboard, but I don't see how it would work today. Aphrael: What would you prefer, a society which does not depend on personal identification? I suppose that would have worked well enough in the Old West, with a (mostly) cash and barter economy, and you where you didn’t need a license to drive a buckboard, but I don’t see how it would work today.

]]> By: eric http://commonsensepoliticalthought.com/?p=2458#comment-180162 eric Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:49:20 +0000 http://commonsensepoliticalthought.com/?p=2458#comment-180162 There's nothing in Islam that requires covering the face; in any event, it is a very small sacrifice to ask someone to uncover themselves for a few seconds to get their picture taken. There comes a point where, if you're unwilling to abide by even minimal standards in your host country, well then, maybe you should just stay where you came from! There’s nothing in Islam that requires covering the face; in any event, it is a very small sacrifice to ask someone to uncover themselves for a few seconds to get their picture taken. There comes a point where, if you’re unwilling to abide by even minimal standards in your host country, well then, maybe you should just stay where you came from!

]]> By: aphrael http://commonsensepoliticalthought.com/?p=2458#comment-180160 aphrael Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:31:27 +0000 http://commonsensepoliticalthought.com/?p=2458#comment-180160 Dana: that makes it worse, in my view: if a member of a religion which is widely practiced (at the world level) is forced, by government regulation, to choose between functioning in our society and adhering to the tenets of their religion, then something has gone badly wrong and must be fixed. Dana: that makes it worse, in my view: if a member of a religion which is widely practiced (at the world level) is forced, by government regulation, to choose between functioning in our society and adhering to the tenets of their religion, then something has gone badly wrong and must be fixed.

]]> By: Dana Pico http://commonsensepoliticalthought.com/?p=2458#comment-180159 Dana Pico Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:21:10 +0000 http://commonsensepoliticalthought.com/?p=2458#comment-180159 Aphrael: With regards to point #1, I think you've ignored the function that drivers' licenses perform in our society. Not only are they certificates of completion of a knowledge and skills test, which grants the privilege to drive to the rightful bearer, but they are also used for positive, visual identification. A police officer who pulls over a motorist for a suspected violation has to be able to determine, with reasonable certainty, that the bearer is the person pictured. The drivers' license has other official identity functions as well. For example, when a person is hired, the hiring company is required to fill out an ICE Form I-9, certifying the new hire's eligibility to work in the United States. The most common identity documents used to satisfy the I-9 requirements are a combination of a birth certificate and a state-issued photographic ID, almost always being a drivers' license. Other documents will suffice, such as a US passport or military identification card, but none of the acceptable I-9 documents or document combinations can be met without a photographic ID. Aphrael: With regards to point #1, I think you’ve ignored the function that drivers’ licenses perform in our society. Not only are they certificates of completion of a knowledge and skills test, which grants the privilege to drive to the rightful bearer, but they are also used for positive, visual identification. A police officer who pulls over a motorist for a suspected violation has to be able to determine, with reasonable certainty, that the bearer is the person pictured.

The drivers’ license has other official identity functions as well. For example, when a person is hired, the hiring company is required to fill out an ICE Form I-9, certifying the new hire’s eligibility to work in the United States. The most common identity documents used to satisfy the I-9 requirements are a combination of a birth certificate and a state-issued photographic ID, almost always being a drivers’ license. Other documents will suffice, such as a US passport or military identification card, but none of the acceptable I-9 documents or document combinations can be met without a photographic ID.

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